http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net HQ 1: Big Mek (KFF, Cybork)

Elites 1: 10 Lootas

Troops 1 2 and 3: 11 Shoota Boyz (Nob w/ PK and Bosspole, Trukks with Ram and Red paint)

F. Attack 1:3 Warbuggies (Trakks, TL Rokkits)

F.Attack 2: 20 Storm boyz (Nob w/ PK and Bosspole)

H. Support 1 and 2: Looted Wagon (Boomgun)

H. Support 3: Battlewagon (Ard case, Kannon, Deff Rolla, 2 Big shootas, Armour plates, Red paint job)


This is a small list, the general idea is to run the Mek in the wagon and move up with the Looted Wagons who act as a screen for the Stormboyz to get in close combat, the boyz zip around and grab objectives in their trukks OR in kill points move up with the other wagons etc. the lootas are content to sit back and act as Anti-transports or walkers and the buggies are there for anti-tank.

Anything i should change? I have not bought the Wartrakks, a 3rd trukk or the Battlewagon yet]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429733/3910589.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429733/3910589.page GMT AV 11.

Also, the Battlewagon seems very out of place. If it's just going to carry the Big mek by himself than it is not worth the points. It would be fine if you gave the Mek a group to join and join him in the wagon.

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You are trying to combine two concepts that don't work very well together with orks. If you want to roll up on your enemy, you want to do it as quickly as possible and not worry about shooting too much, so you BW Spam or Speed Freek in Trukks at your enemy. If you want to shoot your opponent, then you need to sit back and make them come to you, and your whole list has to be able to shoot to have a chance at winning.

You are trying to combine the two and it won't end well. It would be simple to just pick apart your force piece by piece because it doesn't have cohesion. Orks seem chaotic, but if you want to win with them then you need to have the same sort of tempo in your list.

So you have 3 Trukks, a BW and 2 Looted Wagons, then some Stormboyz and Lootas and Buggies. Why do you want Shoota Boyz in the Trukks? Certainly not to shoot from them, that limits your movement and Trukks are extremely fragile. The Looted Wagons are also not great, because for each one you are basically paying the cost of a Battlewagon for an AV11 that has a big gun but poor aim, and sometimes will just drive forwards as far as possible preventing you from firing.

The lootas and warbuggies are standard for some ranged AT, and the Stormboyz aren't bad either albeit quite expensive. I think you would do much better by investing in 3 Battlewagons, for a list like this.

HQ - Big Mek w/ KFF and Cybork

Troops - 3 x 18 Ork Boyz + PK BP Nob

Elite - 2x 5 Lootas

Fast - 19 Stormboyz + PK BP Nob, 3x Rokkit Buggies

Heavy - 3x Battlewagon w/ (Armour Plates, Big Shoota, Deff Rolla, Kannon, Red Paint Job)

That list brings you in at exactly 1500. The BW can still shoot and tank shock, you keep the lootas and buggies for support, and the stormboyz can still advance behind the Wagons.

If you want to do a shooty army that isn't a kanwall, you typically should use Big Gunz, lots of lootas, and lots of shooty boyz.

Hope that helps.





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I think it has potential. Its a really cool idea, and I do like to see those Stormboys get used.( even though they are not shooty)

This is my ork shooty list.

Mek:KFF
Mek:KFF

Lootas x15
Lootas x15
Lootas x15

Shootas x20 Bshoota
-Nob: BS, PK, BP
Shootas x20 Bshoota
-Nob: BS, PK, BP
Shootas x15 (Reserved, most of the time)
-Nob: BS, PK, BP

Big guns: x3 Kannons
Big guns: x3 Kannons
Big guns: x3 Kannons

1500 this is a very fun lilst. It can sometimes get over runned if you roll really bad. Its alot of shots going acrossed the board though. Its nice to see the looks on the other persons face when you put it on the table.

Anyways, I like the list and good luck.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429733/3911897.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429733/3911897.page GMT
Also, your tactics doesn't look like it was thought through. A boomgun can't fire if you move it and is too fragile to use as a screen, so deploy it in cover and then just shoot.

Storm boyz don't fit in this list.

Buggies are good.

Lootas are good, more would be better.


I would scrap that list and do something else.
If you want shooty orks, Kannons are the best, cheapest and most effective you can get!
Buggies are great for harassment.
Then lots and lots of lootas!!!
You'll also need a few boyz truks.
And a KFF mek.
The tactics: stand back and shoot, a lot. When something ugly approaches, intercept with boyz.

Things that can also work for shooty orks:
Boomgun isn't ideal, but it is pretty cool.
Killa kanz are possible, but Kannons are better.
Tank bustas in a battlewagon might be useful, but is meant for more experienced players, very difficult to play right.
For some orky fun, add a Shock attack gun and gretchin as meat shield.
Battlewagons with kill kannons are also pretty neat. Perhaps better than boom guns.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429733/3912357.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429733/3912357.page GMT
HQ 1: Big Mek (KFF, Cybork)

Elites 1: 10 Lootas

Troops 1: 18 Shoota Boyz (Nob w/ PK and Bosspole)

Troops 2: 17 Shoota Boyz (Nob w/ PK and bosspole)

Troops 3: 17 Slugga Boyz (Nob w/ PK and bosspole)

F. Attack 1: 3 Warbuggies (3 Trakks, 3 Rokkits)

F. Attack 2: 20 Stormboyz (Nob w/ PK and bosspole)

H. Support 1, 2 and 3: Battlewagon (Deff Rolla, Armour plates, Kannon, Big Shoota, Red Paint Job)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429733/3913038.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429733/3913038.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429733/3913934.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429733/3913934.page GMT
Any recommendations for 1750? I Hear Burna Boyz are quite good...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429733/3914090.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429733/3914090.page GMT CC, but not both. They are plagued by the low initiative and poor 6+ save that Orks have, and at the cost of 2 and 1/2 Ork boyz, with no Nob equivalent and a max squad size of 15. They are often not worth it.

However, you can use them in a Battlewagon (Burnawagon) and they work pretty well. Since they can dish out a lot of firepower you want them to survive as long as possible, and keeping them in a Wagon will definitely help with that. Take 15 if you can, no less than 12, if you decide to do this. My only problem with them is that they are strictly anti-infantry, where a boyz mob with a PK nob can kill tanks if it comes down to it.

For a 1750 pt match you could add a couple Trukks with Boyz, or more Lootas, buggies, or another battlewagon (with Nobz), but you'd have to drop the Stormboyz probably since a decent Nob squad in a BW ends up costing like close to 400 pts or something.

I used a list in a 1750 pt game with 1 Burna Wagon, 1 Nob Wagon, and 2 Wagons with Boyz and then the conventional support and it worked out pretty well. If you want to keep the Stormboyz though and twist up your list for a 1750 pt game, i'd say add 2 trukks with boyz and swap out boyz in one wagon for Burnas. That would be a fun list to play.


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