<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/15.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray 3D6 and pick another point that far away. But does the ray hit stuff between the vehicle and the 2 points you picked. Me and my brother thought it would, but if not what's the fluff behind how it shoots. Does a line just appear out of one spot and shoot right into another? Or does the vehicle draw a line horizontally, which would then hit everything in front of the vehicle?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3950871.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3950871.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray roll 3d6, and place a second marker that many inches away, where you desire it. It could be past the original 12 inch range, or within it, up to you, you then draw a line between the two markers. Any model the line touches take a strength 10, AP 1 hit.

As far as where the line must go, it isn't specified, so I would assume since this thing is basically a jet on steroids, it could be in any feasible direction

Just my take on it]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3950889.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3950889.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray 3d6" away).

Fluffwise (I don't have the book so it may/should be explained there) it's a high altitude (for 40k anyway) vehicle that is doing a strafing run with a hull mounted gun. Without pointing straight down at the ground (suicidal) it can't hit the ground right in front of it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3950898.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3950898.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
Mikeb43 wrote:I was thinking about putting a Doom scythe in my army against orks, seeing as it will do well against their high numbers.


Why do you say this?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3950907.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3950907.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray 3d6+12". This is fired as a line. My take on the line is it goes 12" and is then extended by the 3d6. Any model under this line takes a S10 AP1 hit, therein if you come against the side armour of three battlewagons side by side and roll 18 (so the range is 30") each wagon takes a hit on side armour]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951207.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951207.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
iGuy91 wrote: Any model the line touches take a strength 10, AP 1 hit.


Just to clarify, if the model the line is touching is in a unit, the unit takes the hit with regular ability to allocate the wound. The weapon is specifically worded to disallow sniping of particular models in a unit.

The wording does lead to some other problems. When I first read it, I thought that any unit hit took wounds equal to the number of models in the unit. Hopefully you aren't suffering from similar confusion.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951241.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951241.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
puma713 wrote:
Mikeb43 wrote:I was thinking about putting a Doom scythe in my army against orks, seeing as it will do well against their high numbers.


Why do you say this?


I'm assuming his thought it that orks tend to have high numbers which means they are often tightly packed together (either lots of guys, lots of trukks, whatever). Thus, when you fire the ray, you hit lots of targets.

But honestly, Necrons have a lot of ways to dish out a ton of hits on basic troops or lightly armored vehicles. (Which is to say: Tesla stuff.) I don't see the Death Ray as especially handy vs orks - in my mind, its strength is mainly against harder targets, clustered transports, etc. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951242.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951242.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951281.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951281.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
Myth wrote:
puma713 wrote:
Mikeb43 wrote:I was thinking about putting a Doom scythe in my army against orks, seeing as it will do well against their high numbers.


Why do you say this?


I'm assuming his thought it that orks tend to have high numbers which means they are often tightly packed together (either lots of guys, lots of trukks, whatever). Thus, when you fire the ray, you hit lots of targets.

But honestly, Necrons have a lot of ways to dish out a ton of hits on basic troops or lightly armored vehicles. (Which is to say: Tesla stuff.) I don't see the Death Ray as especially handy vs orks - in my mind, its strength is mainly against harder targets, clustered transports, etc.


Don't forget the doom scythe also comes with a tesla destructor so it has the possibility for a lot of hits.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951314.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951314.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
Fafnir13 wrote:
iGuy91 wrote: Any model the line touches take a strength 10, AP 1 hit.


Just to clarify, if the model the line is touching is in a unit, the unit takes the hit with regular ability to allocate the wound. The weapon is specifically worded to disallow sniping of particular models in a unit.

The wording does lead to some other problems. When I first read it, I thought that any unit hit took wounds equal to the number of models in the unit. Hopefully you aren't suffering from similar confusion.



This was FAQed, its the number of models under the line. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951331.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951331.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
IHateNids wrote:We are saying models cos the number of hits is equal to the number of models under the line.

This, is correct in my book
For exampe if you hit a unit of 30 boys, and the line touches ...7 of them per-se, and a trukk, those 7 boys are the ones hit, along with the random trukk, the whole unit doesn't take strength 10 AP 1 hits]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951338.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951338.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
IHateNids wrote:My take is the range is 3d6+12". This is fired as a line. My take on the line is it goes 12" and is then extended by the 3d6.

Your take is wrong.
Your explanation has the potential for a 30" line. The rules say that the line starts at one point, then extends 3d6 inches to another point.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951409.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951409.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
Then pick a second point within 3d6 of the first. I believe this to mean roll 3d6, and choose a point ANYWHERE on the board that far away. Draw a line between those two points. This is what is hit. Facing and armor and cover are determined from the firing unit, as per normal. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951559.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951559.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
Myth wrote: I don't see the Death Ray as especially handy vs orks - in my mind, its strength is mainly against harder targets, clustered transports, etc.


I agree. Hence my question above.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951603.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951603.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
rigeld2 wrote:
IHateNids wrote:My take is the range is 3d6+12". This is fired as a line. My take on the line is it goes 12" and is then extended by the 3d6.

Your take is wrong.
Your explanation has the potential for a 30" line. The rules say that the line starts at one point, then extends 3d6 inches to another point.


Then you can possibly shoot around corners with it? I'll take that correction with joy. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951642.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951642.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
IHateNids wrote:
rigeld2 wrote:
IHateNids wrote:My take is the range is 3d6+12". This is fired as a line. My take on the line is it goes 12" and is then extended by the 3d6.

Your take is wrong.
Your explanation has the potential for a 30" line. The rules say that the line starts at one point, then extends 3d6 inches to another point.


Then you can possibly shoot around corners with it? I'll take that correction with joy.

Yes, you absolutely can. Just like you can shoot around corners with some flamers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951670.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951670.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
Ward actually made a hilarious cheesball for once]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951682.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951682.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
IHateNids wrote:

Ward actually made a hilarious cheesball for once


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951688.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951688.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
puma713 wrote:
IHateNids wrote:

Ward actually made a hilarious cheesball for once




Sadly ... he is ...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951848.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3951848.page GMT Re:Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3952557.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3952557.page GMT Re:Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3953685.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3953685.page GMT Re:Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
Nemesor Dave wrote:Against hordes, you're better off with a ghost ark + 10 warriors. Potential 15 to 40 S4 AP5 shots a turn from one ark.

Assuming Toughness 4 with no armour saves, 40 shots x 0.67 x 0.5 = 13 wounds.

Monolith will kill hordes better, but the Ghost Ark option will also give you a scoring opportunity in trade for the loss of offensive power.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3956108.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3956108.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3957095.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/3957095.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray If using the Death Ray, do you need to make a BS check when firing? (or is it like a flamer template, as in, anything under the line is auto hit?)

If so, do I need to roll a 3+ to even shoot?
(I'm assuming no, but the Ork player wants confirmation before he'll believe me)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4088791.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4088791.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4088870.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4088870.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray I was like,
Me: "So wait, if it says everything under the line is hit... what exactly would rolling against my BS be checking for?"
Him: "To see if the gun fires or not."
Me: "... wut?"

Gentlemen, if you can help me further explain why the Death Ray works the way it does, I would be greatly in your favor.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4089229.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4089229.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray BS check is not made to see if gun fires or not, it is made to see if it hits or not. Since the death ray has it's own rules to hit no BS check is required.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4090073.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4090073.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
skoffs wrote:
Gentlemen, if you can help me further explain why the Death Ray works the way it does, I would be greatly in your favor.


Because the rule says to fire the weapon you nominate a point on the board.

That is all you need to do to fire it. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4090200.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4090200.page GMT Re:Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4090952.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4090952.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray Much obliged...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4093061.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4093061.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray
Thats a Mat Ward weapon fo shizzle!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4093197.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4093197.page GMT Necron Doom Scythe Death Ray OP)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4093297.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/431936/4093297.page GMT