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				<title>Dwarf warrior question.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ hi, i just started dwarfs and was wandering why everyone is saying to go with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> and not the shields. i understand the difference, but my question is this: the book says you may ALSO take shields as well as saying you may ALSO take <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>. so can you take both the shield+<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, or no? i know you cant use the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> and the shield in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span>, but they will do much better surviveing shooting, as well as haveing that 3+ save in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> if you use the shield (heavy armour+shield+hand weapon/shield.) its the same points for a quarreller, but you get <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> and shield saves.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Feb 2012 09:11:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ maxpower3579]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Shields will just add some extra armour vs shooting. Your correct in that you can use it in combat, but you would be wasting your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> for it. Plus, in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> your hand weapon and shield would give you a 6+ parry save, which is a ward save that can only be used in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span>. You would not add armour on top of that. So you would either get heavy armour (5+) and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, or heavy armour (5+) and a parry save (6+ ward). Hope that helps.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:02:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lachdannan]]></author>
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				<title>Dwarf warrior question.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You've got a couple rules outdated at this point.  If you have a weapon other than a hand weapon, you *must* use it- so if carrying a hand weapon, shield, and great weapon, you must swing the great weapon in combat.  Furthermore, the hand weapon/shield bonus is now a 6+ ward parry save.<br /> <br /> So in essence buying shields for your great weapon warriors simply gives them an extra "pip" of armor save against shooting and magic.  Not a terrible investment, but most times you are trying to find points for things elsewhere, these are the first to go.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:05:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Red_Zeke]]></author>
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				<title>Dwarf warrior question.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Lachdannan wrote:</cite>Shields will just add some extra armour vs shooting. Your correct in that you can use it in combat, but you would be wasting your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> for it. Plus, in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> your hand weapon and shield would give you a 6+ parry save, which is a ward save that can only be used in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span>. You would not add armour on top of that. So you would either get heavy armour (5+) and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, or heavy armour (5+) and a parry save (6+ ward). Hope that helps.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Wait, what? I'm pretty sure you'd get heavy armour + shield (4+), and a parry save (6+). ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:14:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jeep]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, Heavy Armor (5+) and a Shield(+1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(400);'>AS</span>)  would indeed be a 4+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(400);'>AS</span> not a 3+.  So in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> if you have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(59);'>HW</span> and Shield you would have a 4+/6++]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:39:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Grix]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ok, thanks. i had only seen last edition rulebook so far and that was what happened with the shiled in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span>. the ward save must have replaced it. i was just hopeing to get my warriors to be more survivable but have the ability to kill stuff better.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:45:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ maxpower3579]]></author>
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