<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!!"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! Daemons. BUTTTT daemons have eternal warrior completly canceling out the whole force weapon ablitity, so why even give the grey knights force weapons to begin with? I mean if their not using them it's just makeing them cost more points. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984106.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984106.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! EW when fighting demons.


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the Daemonbane special rule still allows them to instapop daemons, but at a reduced effectivness.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984131.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984131.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984174.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984174.page GMT Re:Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984192.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984192.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984198.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984198.page GMT Re:Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984206.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984206.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984227.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984227.page GMT Re:Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! Ld test and if its failed they are removed as a casuality. No saves allowed against this.

it only works against multi-wound models though.


So lets say I'm attacking a GUO with some Purifiers and I manage to score 5 wounds. The GUO gets to take any applicable saves(only Invuln saves in this case because FWs ignore Armor and FnP)

Lets say he saves 2 of these wounds. He suffers 3 wounds but has 7 left on his profile.

He now must take 3 seperate Ld tests because of the Daemonbane special rule. If he fails any of these tests he is removed from the game.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984262.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984262.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984598.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984598.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!!
inquisitor troll wrote:I just looked at the Daemon codex and their is only problem. Under the Damon SR all daemons are Fearless, so they would auto pass that test.


No, ld tests don't work like that.

Fearless works on morale and pinning. It does not exempt the unit from taking leadership tests.

And shouldn't this be in YMDC?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984610.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984610.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984623.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984623.page GMT Re:Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! ld of demons exactly? 10 across the board, isn't it?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984630.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984630.page GMT Re:Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!!
Grey Templar wrote:its models that are wounded take the Ld test and if its failed they are removed as a casuality. No saves allowed against this.

it only works against multi-wound models though.


So lets say I'm attacking a GUO with some Purifiers and I manage to score 5 wounds. The GUO gets to take any applicable saves(only Invuln saves in this case because FWs ignore Armor and FnP)

Lets say he saves 2 of these wounds. He suffers 3 wounds but has 7 left on his profile.

He now must take 3 seperate Ld tests because of the Daemonbane special rule. If he fails any of these tests he is removed from the game.


sorry, but no....."any deamon or psyker that suffers one or more unsaved wounds from a nemesis force weapon must take a leadership test at the end of the assault fase"..."if the test is failed the model is removed as a casualty" that means that, in your example, the GUO must make one leadership test, not 3, for the wounds he took.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984631.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984631.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! Ld ya. serotol does have a point]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984653.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984653.page GMT Re:Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! GK FAQ, so I guess it's only 1 ld test.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984666.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984712.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984712.page GMT Re:Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! GK already have a lot of nasty toys to use against demons. Instakilling their MCs by forcing 5 ld test would be a bit OTT.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984719.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984719.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984804.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984804.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!!
Daemon prince epicness wrote:isn't leadership a moral test?


No, there is a difference.
A morale test is a type of leadership test, true.

But that does not mean leadership tests are morale tests.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984808.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984808.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! ld 10]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984826.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984826.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!!
I know, it is so bad that GK have stupid force weapons. I mean, they don't work on Daemons so all they get is Preferred Enemy, Daemon Bane, Psyk Out Grenades, Warp Quake, Dark Exorcism to specifically fight Daemons.

Those S5 Storm Bolters and I6 weapons w/ S5 melee attacks can almost, ALMOST make up for the fact that GK cannot force weapon Daemons.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984985.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3984985.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3985012.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3985012.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!!
calypso2ts wrote:Fateweaver has leadership 9!

I know, it is so bad that GK have stupid force weapons. I mean, they don't work on Daemons so all they get is Preferred Enemy, Daemon Bane, Psyk Out Grenades, Warp Quake, Dark Exorcism to specifically fight Daemons.

Those S5 Storm Bolters and I6 weapons w/ S5 melee attacks can almost, ALMOST make up for the fact that GK cannot force weapon Daemons.


+1.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3988680.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3988680.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! str 5 bolters.. How many players actually by psybolt when its better to just buy 2 psycanons.. Though I can kinda fw daemons with daemonbane.

Though most those benefits outside of prefered enemy, psyk out, and daemonbane are kinda uncommon outside of tailoring.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3988685.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3988685.page GMT Re:Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!!
I buy both the Psybolts and Psycannon BTW. Just too awsome not to.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3988690.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3988690.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3988694.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3988694.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!!
Draigo wrote:Ah ya I can seen for a 10 man but not a 5 etc power armor that is. For paladins I don't need psybolt since I rock lots of psycanon love.


That is why you buy 10 and combat squad them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3988718.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3988718.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!!
Kevlar wrote:
Draigo wrote:Ah ya I can seen for a 10 man but not a 5 etc power armor that is. For paladins I don't need psybolt since I rock lots of psycanon love.


That is why you buy 10 and combat squad them.


Yes cause then one is lacking a justicar? no thanks.. Power armor guys arent that impressive to where I can hope ld 8 will hold.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3988731.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3988731.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! imo. It lets the entire army glance AV 11 and it lets you absolutely pile wounds onto enemies.

Warp Quake comes on Strikes (not tailoring), Cleansing Flame on Purifiers (which is really good against Daemons due to their poor saves), and Dark Ex comes on dreadknights as standard. There are other very specific wargear options to fight daemons, I just wanted to list the ones you see in a TAC list.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3990564.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3990564.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! inv saves and daemons lost EW, o well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3990656.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3990656.page GMT Grey knight vs Daemons WTF!!!!!!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3990740.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/433851/3990740.page GMT