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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't know if this is the right place to put this so feel free to move it <br /> <br /> right i keep getting destroyed in two or 3 turns by my brothers eldar. <br /> In high points matches i fair pretty fine its matches that are pointed 1500 points or below <br /> <br /> so im asking for help in constructing the most competitive force with what I've already got as im on a really tight budget being a student and all <br /> <br /> so here goes <br /> <br /> what i have<br />  <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> <br /> marneus calgar<br /> <br /> captain with combi weapon power/artificer Armour and a thunder hammer<br /> <br /> librarian terminator Armour and storm shield <br /> <br /> master Harath Shen (will pm data sheet for all those that are not familiar with him) <br /> <br /> 5 honour guard w/ banner and champ all with boltguns<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> <br /> 10 marine w/melta gun + multi melta with combi weapon on the sergeant<br /> <br /> 10 marines w/melta gun + missle launcher with combi weapon on the sergeant <br /> <br /> 5 scouts w/snipers Telion  <br /> <br /> Elites <br /> <br /> 5 sterngaurd w/ 5x combi weapons and p/fist <br /> <br /> dreadnought with multi melta <br /> <br /> dreadnought with lascannon <br /> <br /> 10 terminators 2x assault cannons 2x chain fists<br /> <br /> vindicare assassin (bit of a rough point as not in marine codex)<br /> <br /> Fast attack <br /> <br /> 5 vanguard w/ 5x plasma pistols and 4x power weapons and lightning claw<br /> <br /> 3 scout bikers power weapon 3 x astrates grenade launchers <br /> <br /> Heavy support<br /> <br /> storm raven w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> multi melta <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> plasma cannon and hurricane bolter (using blood angels codex (not so much a problem as he likes to see it go boom))   <br /> <br /> <br /> all help is appreciated <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> also razorback with twin linked lascannons and dozer blades (hatch is removable and i have rhino hatch)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:53:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ As far as I know, this is the right place for this article. In smaller point games, I would not use Calgar or honour guard. Personally, I would got with the librarian. Sternguard are also another good inclusion. If your dreadnought's arms are interchangable, add an assault cannon to one. A good solid tactical squad base in rhino's is a common thing I see against marines. Also, if you can say what kind of eldar he uses, I could probably tell you more specifically what is a good idea. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Mar 2012 06:47:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Its a ragtag collection of models but I'm sure its workable.<br /> <br /> Can you post up what your brother's eldar lists usually looks like?  Or does he switch it up all the time?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:28:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the imput <br /> <br /> Baneguard thanks for the advice with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span>'s as thats one point i always go overboard with and with regards to his list it usualy looks like this<br /> <br /> avatar<br /> <br /> farseer rowa rowi (phycic powers are as per his choice usually two of fortune doom and guide)<br /> <br /> 10 guardians scatter laser platform <br /> <br /> 10 dire avengers made as shooty as possible (no idea what upgrade as i don't have his codex) <br /> <br /> 5 pathfinders <br /> <br /> 10 howling banshees <br /> <br /> 5 fire dragons <br /> <br /> 5 swooping hawks <br /> <br /> 2 x wave serpents (for fire dragons and banshees attached with farseer)<br /> <br /> wraith lord with sword and star cannon <br /> <br /> and i thinks that's it i will get him to post the exact thing when he finishes work <br /> <br /> but i don't really want to tailor an army to beat his Eldar just a as competitive as i can get against Eldar list <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> and Barksdale it may be a ragtag bunch but it somehow destroys a paladin grey knights list on a regular basis]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:17:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ scotta29]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would suggest getting some transports for your marines.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:38:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes i am well aware grimnarsmate but i have very little in the way of funds at the moment but i do have 2 transports for the time being <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Mar 2012 20:43:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ scotta29]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I know your short on funds, but I think that some heavy anti-tank may be required, like a devastator squad full of missile launchers. If your opponent uses fire dragons; I would avoid using terminators. Again; I suggest using sternguard. By the way, are you using normal marines or blood angels. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Mar 2012 21:44:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm using the normal marines codex but i am using the blood angels codex for the storm raven i am told that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> plan to integrate them into all marine codex's next edition <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> just in case you wondered there are 3425 points of marines when upgraded ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:15:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ scotta29]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi all im scotta29's brother and it seems you all want to know my army so here goes.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span><br /> <br /> Farseer - 155<br /> w/ R.O.Wa, R.O.Wi, Stones, Fortune, Doom.<br /> <br /> Avatar - 155<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> <br /> 10x howling banshees -192<br /> w/ Exarch, Executioner, War shout, Aromatic<br /> <br /> 5x fire dragon - 105<br /> w/ Exarch, Firepike, Crack shot<br /> <br /> Wave serpent - 115<br /> w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> scatter lasers<br /> <br /> Wave serpent - 115<br /> w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> scatter lasers<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> <br /> 10x guardians - 131<br /> w/ scatter laser platform, warlock, embolden, spiritseer.<br /> <br /> 10x Dire Avengers - 152<br /> w/ Exarch, dual avenger catapults, Brainstorm.<br /> <br /> 5x pathfinders - 120<br /> <br /> Fast attack<br /> <br /> 5 stooping hawks - 147<br /> w/ Exarch, hawks talon, Skyleap, Intercept<br /> <br /> Heavy support <br /> <br /> Wraithlord - 130<br /> w/ starcannon, Wraithsword <br /> <br /> comes to about 1500 points have fun dissecting.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:54:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would go for a base of tactical marines instead of using scouts. Your main problem are the banshees and fire dragons. If you can strand them without a wave serpent at the other side of the board, you can pick them off at your leisure.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Mar 2012 02:41:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BaneGuard]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ so what ive got so far is <br /> <br /> librarian<br /> <br /> 2 tactical squads (advice on weapons thinking missle launchers)<br /> <br /> stern guard<br /> <br /> razorback<br /> <br /> dread assualt cannons or lascannons <br /> dread assualt cannons or lascannons<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> oh and 10 man devestator squad w/ 4x missle launchers ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:26:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ scotta29]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That last list loos like it could take on eldar. For tactical squad weapons, I would take either heavy bolter's or missile launcher's. With the razorback, I would take twin-linked lascannons and with the dreadnought's, assault cannons. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:05:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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