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				<description><![CDATA[ Welcome to my blog folks, I thought it was about time i started one, not to show of my awsomely painted space marines but get some advice, have a chat and mainly to try and improve my technique. <br /> I have been collecting Space marines since I was at school ( a long time ago <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">), I had a few forays into painting and modelling when i was younger but i never really had the patience and was never really happy with my results. <br /> I used to play <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> alot with unpainted figures, I played bloodbowl and quite a few other games, and never really painted any of the models myself.<br /> So here I am many years later with quite a large collection of figures and things have changed, I am still never happy with my finished painted minitures, but i now have the patience and time to get into it.<br /> I dont expect to become awsome, and I admit at the moment i really am not very good at it whatsoever but i would really like to get to the stage where i can be happy with how they look, eventually.<br /> The only thing i think i have improved since i started again a few montsh ago, is that my finished figures seem to be less messsy.<br /> I started collecting during the rogue trader era, I think it was the ten pound box of marines that got me going, and i still have most of them left, although guess what ! <br /> Not many of them are painted !<br /> The first squad i painted up were based on this picture, this image was one of the reason i chose the Mantis Warriors chapter, as well as liking the green colour the mantis markings painted on the helmets sealed the deal for me.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/346231-.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346231_sm-.jpg" border="0" /></a><br /> <br /> Sadly i got quite irratated at how bad they were not long after painting them and decided to strip them down and go for a simpler idea.<br /> This was the only surviving unit i had from my early days of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, this was my only ever finished unit and is my starting point for this army.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346218_md-.JPG" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346219_md-.JPG" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346220_md-.JPG" border="0" /><br /> <br /> As you can see they are not too hot and the poses are not much better, Picture is a bit blurry but i think you can see that the captain looked like he had some sort of skin disease and I had to leave the captains eyes out as when i tried to paint them, they always looked freaky and reminded me constantly of this guy.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346232_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <br /> Which as it happens would not be a bad thing if it were in another context ! You can also probably see that back in the day, <br /> i was still not happy  with my chapter markings, so much so, that i actually just painted over them and left them bare.<br /> <br /> Well, thats enough reminiscing about how bad a painter i was a long time ago and now onto how bad i am nowadays instead !<br /> I thought that i would start first off with some random marines i have that were already assembled, some quite badly, but that didnt really matter to me as i just wanted to get a general idea of a colourscheme and see if i was even capable of a half decent job.<br /> <br /> I started with goblin green, a dark wash and then a mix of goblin green and scorpion green to get the colout i wanted, I did my highlights with scorpion green. The weapons were painted black and drybrushed with boltgun metal and gold in some place, i think this method can definately be improved upon, i dont really like the look of alot of my weapons.<br /> So here they are.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346221_md-.JPG" border="0" /><br /> <br /> Looking at them now closely with a camera i can see that they are quite messy, but they were the first few i did after a long time out so i thought, lets get going with a couple more.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346222_md-.JPG" border="0" /><br /> <br /> These two had a few more details on, which proved to be a bit of a problem, I had it all on picking out the details even with my glasses on, so i splashed out on a magnifying glass on a stand and a pair of reading glasses to help me out next time around.<br /> Im also starting to notice now, that the highlights i made are not really that noticable.<br /> Still i plugged away and got myself two more guys painted up, a couple wielding plasma guns.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346223_md-10.JPG" border="0" /><br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346224_md-13.JPG" border="0" /><br /> <br /> I started using the reading glasses when i did the detail one these two, it was much easier to pick out the eyes and such. I made a decent job of the loincloth i thought although the plasma effect left alot to be desired.<br /> Next up, i thought it was about time to revisit my old nemesis, skin ! <br /> I picked out a captain to paint and although it did not have much flesh showing i was still a little daunted by it.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346225_md-16.JPG" border="0" /><br /> <br /> I did the skin by starting with a dark red, then builing it up gradually up to a paler colour, copying a guide i read somewhere.<br /> I must admit i was not too happy with the results and instead of doing the eyes i opted to just shade the black, scared that if i tried i would end up with the "sloth" look.<br /> This was the first one i had ever painted that i felt marginally happy with the results, i dont know exactly what it is, but i think maybe because it just seems less messy than the rest !<br /> Here is a group shot of the first squad i painted.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346226_md-21.JPG" border="0" /><br /> <br /> With this being my first squad, I am not too bothered by the rough look they have, I wont be playing with them and they were more of a painting refresher then anything else, and with those done,  i delt i could break out a box of assaut marines and have a go at those !<br /> I thought it would be a cool idea to magnetize them too so i could change the weapon configurations if i ever needed to.<br /> I did three at a time, they took a little longer then the first ones, there was not a great deal of poses i could get them into but with the magnets in the arms i can move them around anyway to get them looking better if need be.<br /> <br />  <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346227_md-24.JPG" border="0" /><br />  <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346228_md-25.JPG" border="0" /><br />   <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346229_md-26.JPG" border="0" /><br />   <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/3/26/346230_md-30.JPG" border="0" /><br /> I think after doing this sqaud that i may be getting somewhere, albeit very slowly, which to be honest was much more then i expected. Yet again, although i was not overly happy with them, i had painted a squad and i didnt feel the urge to strip them down and start again !<br /> So far i have been using the same methods and colours on them all, I start with goblin green over a grey primer, Then a dark green/almost black wash. After that i go over the armour plates with a 50/50 mix of goblin green and scorpion green, and i do my higlights in scorpion green.<br /> I am not too keen on how my highlights look, i think that thinner lines may help and maybe even a lighter colour ?<br /> Maybe a different method all together, someone mentioned to me that i could drybrush them, but so far the only thing i have ever drybrushed are my weapons, I think i will consult a few guides on that one.<br /> Would appreciate some imput too regarding this, my weapons or anything else too.<br /> <br /> At the moment i am basing the guys I have already painted, as you can probably tell, I have just put sand on them using PVA glue and washed it with black, i was going to give them another wash then drybrush some greys onto them. I thought i should start simple, i have never even properly based a mini, is this a good idea ? <br /> eventually i would like to get them on some sort of concrete urban setting.<br /> Next up I am taking a break from infantry, well kind of, and i am painting a marine on a Bike, I have never really painted a vehicle so i will have to see how it goes, i would like to use some weathering effects on them but at the moment i am not too sure on what to use and how to use it, nor do i want to push my luck.<br /> <br /> Seems its past my bedtime now, so i will bow out, i will try and get a photo of my bike up in the next day or so as it is nearly finshed.<br /> I would really appreciate it if some of you that know much better than I , would have a look over my stuff and let me know what you think and how i could improve it, you can be harsh if you feel you need to,<br /> Afterall am a big boy now, or so my mother tells me !<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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