<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Need some advice on Grey Knights. Making purchase list."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Need some advice on Grey Knights. Making purchase list.
I've finished up my 2000 points of Blood Angels (Flesh Tearers) mech list, at least for now, and have decided to work on another army. In my meta we have everything, 1 Vanilla SM, 4 Blood Angels, 2 Orks, 1 Tau, 2 Eldar, 3 IG, 1 Dark Eldar, 1 Chaos, 1 Space Wolves, 4 Tyranid and 1 Necron (though the Necron army hasn't been played yet as he's building off the old stuff he had).

The only thing we don't have is Grey Knights. So I took it upon myself to open that can of worms.

I've seen several builds and know the popular ones would be Draigo and terminator spam, Coteaz and henchment spam and Crowe and Purifier spam. Of all of these I like the Purifier spam list a bit better as you can see I deal with quite a few hordes. And it's going to be cheaper in the long run.

My question really is this.

My HQ will be Crowe,

I'm thinking 2 venerable dreadnoughts with auto cannons and pysbolt ammo

Maybe 3x10 man purifier squads with psycannons and halberds in rhino's

For heavy I was thinking 2 razorbacks with 5 man purgation squads with 4 psycannons each basically using the razors as cover and the Razors adding more anti tank and a standard dread with auto cannons and psybolt ammo.

I believe thats somewhere in the vicinity of 2000 points give or take some.

My questions are the 10 man purifier squads... too much? Should I go with 5 and more rhinos? I could really use the S7 psycannons.

What about the heavy choices? That would put 3 dreads on the board with psybolt A/C's. Plus 2 las cannons and TL-plasma. The purgation squads i like because I can take fewer of them and still have the psycannons.

I've watched/read a few battle reports but I haven't seen something like this. Any help here would be great.

Thanks,

-Mordechai]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081299.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081299.page GMT Re:Need some advice on Grey Knights. Making purchase list. Drop the razors and use rhinos. Two psycannons shooting out of there is all you really need. Don't forget the psybolt. I only run three psyriffle dreads. More than that seems to be wasted as there usually aren't that many decent fire lanes in a game. I'll usually throw in a hammer with each unit just incase we run into some nasty armor.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081361.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081361.page GMT Need some advice on Grey Knights. Making purchase list.
Maybe it's because I play blood angels but not taking the razorbacks seems... blasphemous to me. Plus, if I'm behind an exploding vehicle I'm using for cover, it's a S3 hit not a S4 hit. I get your point though. Also the extra S9 shots is hard to get rid of.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081403.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081403.page GMT Re:Need some advice on Grey Knights. Making purchase list. GKs vehicles are very cheesy. Just wait until you start shrugging off shaken and stirred damage results. Very cheesy. The only thing that's hard to find in our armies is melta. Unless you do a inquisitor list with a bunch of little dudes who can't shoot the side of a barn the only places you'll see it is on storm ravens and dreads.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081424.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081424.page GMT Need some advice on Grey Knights. Making purchase list.
HQ Crowe 150
Inquisitor psychostroke grenades, powersword 50

Troops
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189


Elite
Ven. Dread. TLACx2, psybolt. 195
Ven. Dread. TLACx2, psybolt. 195
Ven. Dread. TLACx2, psybolt. 195

Heavy
Dreadnought TLACx2, psybolt. 135
Dreadnought TLACx2, psybolt. 135

Total 2000

This would be a pretty competitive 2000 points purifier spam list. Now the question is, do you like spam? personally I hate lists like this, but is certainly competitive.

If you still want purgation squads, I would modify the list slightly by doing this:

HQ Crowe 150

Troops
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer (MC), rhino 204
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer(MC), rhino 204
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189
Elite
Ven. Dread. TLACx2, psybolt. 195
Ven. Dread. TLACx2, psybolt. 195

Heavy

Purgation squad (5) 4x psycannon,rhino 220
Purgation squad (5) 4x psycannon, rhino 220
Purgation squad (5) 4x psycannon,rhino 220


Total 1996

You would have a ton of psycannons (20), in a vacuum that's 80 strength 7 shots from them if stationary lol, not likely to happen but that is a crazy amount of psycannons and you still have two resilient dreadnoughts for that long range fire support.

Personally, I think the first list is more competitive, but the second list would still be extremely powerful against most lists. Anyways, hope that helped a bit.
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What about the knight of the flame? Would you upgrade him? Or just leave him as is and not waste the points as he's perils fodder?

I've also been thinking of taking a Vindicare as well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081523.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081523.page GMT Need some advice on Grey Knights. Making purchase list. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081606.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081606.page GMT Need some advice on Grey Knights. Making purchase list. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081622.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4081622.page GMT Need some advice on Grey Knights. Making purchase list.
CountDeath wrote:If you look around at some of the lists, purifier spam tends to go with 5 man squads in rhinos. The reason for this is that the rhino only has two firing points, therefore you can only ever fire the two psycannons max (two per 5 man squad). A list would be something like this.

HQ Crowe 150
Inquisitor psychostroke grenades, powersword 50

Troops
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189


Elite
Ven. Dread. TLACx2, psybolt. 195
Ven. Dread. TLACx2, psybolt. 195
Ven. Dread. TLACx2, psybolt. 195

Heavy
Dreadnought TLACx2, psybolt. 135
Dreadnought TLACx2, psybolt. 135

Total 2000

This would be a pretty competitive 2000 points purifier spam list. Now the question is, do you like spam? personally I hate lists like this, but is certainly competitive.

If you still want purgation squads, I would modify the list slightly by doing this:

HQ Crowe 150

Troops
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer (MC), rhino 204
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer(MC), rhino 204
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189
Purifiers (5) 2xpsycannon, 2xhalberd, 1xDaemonhammer, rhino 189
Elite
Ven. Dread. TLACx2, psybolt. 195
Ven. Dread. TLACx2, psybolt. 195

Heavy

Purgation squad (5) 4x psycannon,rhino 220
Purgation squad (5) 4x psycannon, rhino 220
Purgation squad (5) 4x psycannon,rhino 220


Total 1996

You would have a ton of psycannons (20), in a vacuum that's 80 strength 7 shots from them if stationary lol, not likely to happen but that is a crazy amount of psycannons and you still have two resilient dreadnoughts for that long range fire support.

Personally, I think the first list is more competitive, but the second list would still be extremely powerful against most lists. Anyways, hope that helped a bit.


I'm using his first list but I'm not going to use the extra inquisitor and I'm adding 1 more grey knight to every squad and I have a 5 man strike squad in my 5th rhino.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4082055.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4082055.page GMT Need some advice on Grey Knights. Making purchase list.
Secondly, although I agree incinerators are great on purgation squads, the OP wanted psycannons so I made a list with them to their max potential which would still be effective.

I agree that the first list has too many dreadnaughts too and therefore I am not a fan of it, but it is what is currently competitive so I thought I would put it in.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4082527.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4082527.page GMT Re:Need some advice on Grey Knights. Making purchase list. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4082774.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/439333/4082774.page GMT