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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello im sniperray213 and this is my chaos space Marine list that i have started and made some models myself.<br /> <br /> here is the list of my chaos army:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Abbadon The Despoiler<br /> Chaos Lord(i add upgrades of my choosing)<br /> custom Chaos Scorcerer(upgrades of my choice)<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> 5 Possessed space marines<br /> 1 Terminator(custom)<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 25 Chaos space marines (i choose what they are)<br /> 20 KHORNE BERZERKERS(10 each with a skull champ)<br /> <br /> Transports:<br /> 2 Rhinos so far<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> 6 custom Raptors(3 of the are from the 25 Chaos Space Marines)<br /> <br /> Heavy Support<br /> Custom Havoc squad(2 of the are from the 25 Chaos Space Marines)<br /> Chaos Defiler<br /> 3 Obliterators<br /> <br /> <br /> 1 custom Chaos spawn]]></description>
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				<title>Chaos space Marine army</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ This isn't an army list at all man <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> Check the stickied threads before posting to get how your supposed to lay out a list. Anyway, Welcome to Dakka and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSMs</span>!<br /> <br /> I'll give you a little run down on what I think of what you have.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span><br /> <br /> Abaddon: Little pricey for anything under 1,750 so I wouldn't think of running him unless you reach that point cost. He is super killy though, and lots of fun!<br /> <br /> Chaos Lord: He's OK. Just remember not to over-do it when gearing him up, too much gear will leave him over-priced for what he'll be able to do. 170 pts should be your absolute maximum point cap for this guy.<br /> <br /> Chaos Sorcerer: Best out of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> you have right now. Only two builds you should go to be honest, either Mark of Slaanesh + Lash of Submission sorcerer or Tzeentch Warp Bolt + Other shooty spell sorcerer. Bikes here are good but they run just aswell in a rhino. Don't ever give him terminator armour simply because you'll be making him too pricey and too big of a target for what he does.<br /> <br /> The only <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> you don't have is the best one the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> codex has to offer. The Daemon Prince is by far the best <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> avaliable, Mark of Khorne Prince, Nurgle Prince with Warptime, Slaanesh Prince with Lash, Tzeentch shooty prince, there's very few ways you can go wrong with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span>. Just be sure to give them wings and have at it. First thing you should buy when you can is a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> for sure.<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> <br /> Possessed Marines: Can be fun to run if you feel lucky but really they don't do as much as they should. Chosen Marines work a lot better (they're actually consistent) so I would only consider running these guys in friendly games.<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> <br /> Chaos Space Marines: Standard. Obviously. Get them in squads of 10 with 2x Melta, Icon of Chaos Glory and a Champ with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>. This is just about the only way to go to be perfectly honest. They do benefit greatly from rhinos so you might want to consider getting a few more.<br /> <br /> Khorne Berzerkers: I'm a big fan of these fanatics. Field all your berzerkers every time you can afford to, but remember, if you can't be a 'Raider' GIVE THEM A RHINO. They won't do anything if you have them slog because they'll just be shot at first. At least Rhinos give them a box and the cover of smoke to get closer.<br /> <br /> Transports: More rhinos please. Almost all your troops, elites and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> need a rhino to keep safe. Nurgle followers aside of course, you can just pop them on an objective and laugh as they never move an inch.<br /> <br /> Fast Attack: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSMs</span> suffer from not having Scout Bikers or Land Speeders but they do have some fancy things avaliable for their Raptors and Bikes (Marks of the gods, Icons etc.) Raptors are a situational unit for me, they can be used for distracting the enemy or picking off back field support squads, I guess. Overall, I almost never have any units in my Fast Attack when playing the Chaos Marines.<br /> <br /> Heavy Support: Havocs are good for me, some people hate them others can't live without them. They can do some cool unexpected things, like taking 4 meltas and taking a rhino meant for one of your troops. They can also take up their standard role with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>MLs</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PCs</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span> etc. Overall, not as great as the vehicles are and you'd benefit more from a Defiler, Vindicator or Predator but seeing as you have their models already, feel free to field them if you can gear them up right.<br /> <br /> Special Section: Get obliterators... NOW! If you don't like their models find some other model you like better and field those but these are absolutely necessary, andyone who says otherwise are insane. Run them in squads of two or three and start them on the board, deep strike them, have them synergise with Lash of Submission, charge them into something to hold them up if you have to, just get them!<br /> <br /> If I was to mock up a list with what you have i'd probably run something like:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span><br /> <br /> Chaos Sorcerer<br />  - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, 2x Shooty Spells<br /> Elites<br /> <br /> 5 Possessed Marines<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> <br /> 10x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSMs</span><br />  - 2x Melta, Champ w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(75);'>IoCG</span><br /> <br /> 10x Berzerkers<br />  - Champ w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span><br /> Dedicated Transport<br /> Rhino<br /> <br /> 10x Berzerkers<br />  - Champ w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span><br /> Dedicated Transport<br /> Rhino<br /> <br /> Fast Attack<br /> <br /> 6x Raptors<br />  - Champ w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, Melta Bombs<br /> <br /> Heavy Support<br /> <br /> 5x Havocs<br />  - 3x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> <br /> Your models lack <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> capabilities so I went with the Tzeentch Sorcerer and most things can succesfully damage a tank. Just what I think you should field-ish.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:18:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Chaos space Marine army</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ i dont need to be told about the 1st few things that you just said. I manke my own lists and i know what to choose for the list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 8 May 2012 19:05:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If you don't want help or suggestions, why post the list?<br /> <br /> Is this a list of models you have, or is this actually the list you run to play against other people?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 8 May 2012 19:53:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mizzri]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Chaos space Marine army</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>sniperray213 wrote:</cite>i dont need to be told about the 1st few things that you just said. I manke my own lists and i know what to choose for the list.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> So you posted here because? <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> This is the army list board, it's for posting ideas for lists to run in the game, it is then expected that you will receive feedback, advice and criticism, that is presented in a helpful and friendly way. <br /> There is a stickied post at the top of this board, you should read it in order to better understand what this board is for. <br /> <br /> <br /> If you are not requesting help or inviting commentary, might I suggest you start up a blog? <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 9 May 2012 14:55:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Chaos space Marine army</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>MeanGreenStompa wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>sniperray213 wrote:</cite>i dont need to be told about the 1st few things that you just said. I manke my own lists and i know what to choose for the list.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I posted the list up because i didnt know how to post pictures up on this website. So i just posted what i had in my army till i have figured out how to post pictures up on this site.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Mizzri wrote:</cite>If you don't want help or suggestions, why post the list?<br /> <br /> Is this a list of models you have, or is this actually the list you run to play against other people?</div></blockquote><br /> a List of the models that i have and customly made to battle with.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 9 May 2012 15:24:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Chaos space Marine army</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>sniperray213 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>sniperray213 wrote:</cite>i dont need to be told about the 1st few things that you just said. I manke my own lists and i know what to choose for the list.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I posted the list up because i didnt know how to post pictures up on this website. So i just posted what i had in my army till i have figured out how to post pictures up on this site.<br /> <br /> <br /> it's a List of the models that i have and customly made to battle with.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Ah, then you should be making a blog, with photos, in the blog section in painting and modeling. <br /> <br /> This board is for army lists, composed using the codex, ready for using in a game. It's to make sure they are rules-tight and to get feedback on how they will perform, advice on improving them etc. <br /> It's the wrong area for your post. <br /> <br /> I will ask a mod to move it for you. ]]></description>
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