<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Speculation: DA/BT going back to SM Codex."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Speculation: DA/BT going back to SM Codex. CSM Codex and 6th Ed Rulebook I was wondering if it's possible that GW might want to make SM Codex in a similar way.

- New CSM codex will focus on "veriants" of the same army represented by different legions
- most CSM Legions get Sprue/Transfer Sheet upgrades in time
- DA are more-less just a variant of SM
- SM being a trademark army are 4 years behind with codex already surpassed by new stuff in for ex. BA/SW Codexes
- BT haven't seen upgrade in a long time and don't seem to have as many fans as BA and SW who fully deserve separate codexes
- Tau and Eldar are already lining up for updates and are rumoured as "soon-ish"
- DA began to appear more often and might take over Ultramarines as "trademark" chapter - but that would require them to be treated with SM Codex

So with that in mind, perhaps:

- New SM Codex will take on similar approach as CSM -> basic army (for ex Ultramarines) with fluffy variants with their own rulesets
- all beloved chapters like Salamanders, Imperial Fists, White Scars etc - get additional rules and unit variants not dependant on taking IC as HQ
- more of 4th ed approach rather than 5th ed
- DA and BT get included into Codex: SM and same ruleset / fluff / variants / aditional units treatment as chapters above
- all chapters (including BT and DA) get neat upgrade sprues at reasonable price

Don't kill me - it's just a tought.
What do you think?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440016/4094717.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440016/4094717.page GMT Speculation: DA/BT going back to SM Codex.
Herr Dexter wrote:
- BT haven't seen upgrade in a long time and don't seem to have as many fans as BA and SW who fully deserve separate codexes

- DA began to appear more often and might take over Ultramarines as "trademark" chapter - but that would require them to be treated with SM Codex



Black Templars are one the most different chapters around:
- operating well above the 1000 cap mad by rowboat girlyman
- Mixing Scouts and Marines
- Emperor's Champion and the vow system
- A chaplain that is harder than Cassius.
- On a permanent Crusade

DA are fairly different as well:- Ravenwing and Deathwing were their ideas first, Vanilla SM can do ravenwing but can't add in LS to the squads, Deathwing has been surpassed in effectiveness by draigo wing but is still a really good build for such an old rule set. (6x Squads w/ TH/SS + Cyclone ML and Belial) but they are only ones who can do both in the same list.
Fluffwise they have a lot more Plasma love than is shown in the rules
The Fallen are also a massive fluff device and good for storys
They may become the "Trademark" Chapter but the main reason the UM are there is because they stick the closest to The CodexAstartes. IE what the majority of loyalist chapters aim to do.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440016/4094874.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440016/4094874.page GMT