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				<title>New player, Circle Orboros, Krueger the Stormwrath</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So me and a friend were thinking of starting on Warmachine/Hordes and I am planning on using Krueger the Stormwrath as my warlock.  One real problem is that me and my friend don't know what we should use as a starting points limit, he said 5 would work but I feel it should be closer to 15-20.  I would also like some ideas for what to bring with Krueger and how to use them in-game.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 1 Apr 2012 02:56:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Squidmanlolz]]></author>
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				<title>New player, Circle Orboros, Krueger the Stormwrath</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ When starting the official battleboxes are around 11-12 points on average but going up to 15 is fine. As for what to bring, no idea.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 1 Apr 2012 07:15:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ yastobaal]]></author>
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				<title>Re:New player, Circle Orboros, Krueger the Stormwrath</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ There are alot of options with krueger as he is one of my favorite casters for Orboros.<br /> <br /> First off you need to figure out what you want your list too do.  <br /> 1. Heavy hitting?<br /> 2. board control?<br /> 3. Infantry Machine?<br /> <br /> Your list also depends on the game play.  Heads up or scenario.<br /> <br /> Lets just start off basic for a 10 point list including warlock points bringing a total of 15 points for a mangled metal list,  Only warbeasts warlocks allowed.  Battlebox based..<br />       Prime Krueger<br />       Warpwolf stalker (heavy hitter)<br />       Gorax<br /> or <br />       Prime Krueger<br />       Ghetorix (upgrade kit, Plastic) (hard hard hard hitter)<br />       Argus<br /> or <br />       Prime Krueger<br />       Feral Warpwolf<br />       Argus (animus for pathfinder and 360 vision), range spray 6 too paralyze a living model hit not very effiecient and too stop a heavy in its tracks for one turn.<br />      <br /> <br /> Or a basic starter of warlock, warbeast(s) and unit Heads up match.<br />      prime Krueger<br />      Woldwarden (geomancy) slow but does hit like a truck<br />      Unit of Gatormen Posse or tharn ravagers.  Gatormen for undead models. and lightening tendracles.  Tharn for living models, also great for lightening tendracles.  Can buy for more attacks.<br /> <br /> But too sum up good units with krueger. <br /> woldwarden(geomancy)  anti infantry Single <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>Hp</span> models<br /> warpwolf stalkers  heavy warbeast/jacks or clearing out some heavy infantry good model for tendracles.<br /> Megalith  anti infantry, good support for high defense models but use at higher point games.<br /> Pureblood...spray spray spray!!! and two melee attacks...great warbeast for a pal.<br /> Gorax  it is hurt...charge or run for free!! animus is gross on a living beast...hits harder and more accurate...misses still can happen.  <br /> Argus  Another cheap unit best against living models but can paralyze, combo strike for 16 base <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>dmg</span>.  <br /> Shadowhorn satyr...just give him a gorax for hitting power and accuracy then argus too see 360o and let the bodies hit the floor with the throw!!<br /> <br /> Units<br /> Gatorman posse...two attacks electro-leap...you say fried chicken?<br /> Druids of orboros ...great too get those targets into your warbeasts charge lane too mess up for a turn...but druids are best for scenarios.<br /> Tharn ravagers...good with electro-leap since then kill a living model and get tokens for more attacks.  <br /> wolves of orboros...just too keep your enemys at bay for a turn or two...don't expect more out of em.  Tar pit<br /> <br /> <br />     <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 Apr 2012 01:13:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ardele]]></author>
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				<title>New player, Circle Orboros, Krueger the Stormwrath</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ From my somewhat limited experience in playing circle, I would suggest picking up a squad of Tharn Blood trackers, not because they work with Krueger specifically, but because they are a very solid infantry unit with a short ranged weapon mastered weapon that can hit kind of hard. They also have amazing speed (the highest natural <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(191);'>SPD</span> stat for infantry - 7inches) and they are difficult to deal with as they are both high <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(186);'>DEF</span> and stealth.<br /> <br /> They will make for a very solid infantry choice in many lists.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:23:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ KingKodo]]></author>
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