jbsnv wrote:all of that...for 1500 points.... THAT'S SEMI COMPETITIVE!?!?!?!?!?!? you will win every game you come across with this hands down

what i would do is might of titan quick silver sanctuary and the shrouding reason being when in assault have your libby go I 10 and +1 ST and have your termys do hammer head so they are now ST 6 and roll 2d6 to hit vehicals and your hammer hits at ST 10 roll 2d6 and when being shot at do the other two

your flame templates at ST 7 and assult canon ST 7 ST 5 storm bolters and ST 8 auto cannons is over kill (you can probably get rid of warp stabilization feild

jbsnv wrote:lovin this lists :3

also love the fact that you can just rage make all your weapons instant death and kill nob bikers with ease

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

jbsnv wrote:lovin this lists :3

also love the fact that you can just rage make all your weapons instant death and kill nob bikers with ease

Yeah the Libby unit would do well against those kind of Deathstar units where allocation is really important as the libby can make my termies S6 and then they can activate their force weapons meaning killing nob biker's on 2's!

A banner might help me here for those annoying Anti psyker tyranids, it means all i need to do is get 1 6 against a Hive Tyrant or Tervigon and it's dead, no Shadow in the Warp For me! although it does drop 2 power weapon attacks, i might test it out if i've got the points as i do gain attacks and it's another thing for allocation.

jbsnv wrote:

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

jbsnv wrote:lovin this lists :3

also love the fact that you can just rage make all your weapons instant death and kill nob bikers with ease

Yeah the Libby unit would do well against those kind of Deathstar units where allocation is really important as the libby can make my termies S6 and then they can activate their force weapons meaning killing nob biker's on 2's!

A banner might help me here for those annoying Anti psyker tyranids, it means all i need to do is get 1 6 against a Hive Tyrant or Tervigon and it's dead, no Shadow in the Warp For me! although it does drop 2 power weapon attacks, i might test it out if i've got the points as i do gain attacks and it's another thing for allocation.

no no no if you read it you can turn the whole unit into a force weapon >:3 instant death if you hit them

wuestenfux wrote:Well, the list seems competitive to me as long as you don't lose the LRR too early in the game.

wuestenfux wrote:In fact, an LR is always a gamble at this pt level. I've seen games in which Space Marines destroyed a LR by the first shot (lascannon).

I'd leave the LRR at home. Termies are not much better than a GKSS unit when it comes to shooting. Frankly, GK Termies are overpriced to me.

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

wuestenfux wrote:In fact, an LR is always a gamble at this pt level. I've seen games in which Space Marines destroyed a LR by the first shot (lascannon).

I'd leave the LRR at home. Termies are not much better than a GKSS unit when it comes to shooting. Frankly, GK Termies are overpriced to me.

They are by no means the best unit, and I think that's where the Semi Competitive factor comes in for me, I know there are better options but I really wanted Terminators in my list, at 2K i have 4 SS and then a Purifier unit in a LR Godhammer but I'm not sure whether the Godhammer would be a good bet despite 2 TL Lascannons to add to my Long Ranged Anti Tank firepower. I love the GK Terminator models and wanted a Librarian so I had to go for that unit!

I think a lot of people forget that Warhammer is a hobby first and a game second and while you should focus on winning you should also look at getting the models which appeal to you, otherwise all armies are the same and it ruins the community of Warhammer if everyone cares about winning, what's the point in collecting an army if you don't like the models?

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:I'm thinking about putting a warding stave in there, maybe for allocation or even on the librarian to keep him alive, i could do this by dropping warp stabilization and The Summoning and getting one warding stave, but should i have it on the termies or the libby?

jbsnv wrote:i think you read that wrong force weapon is a power that you do once activaded is your normal force sword (witch is a power weapon) but if you hit the enamy if they dont have at least a 5++ then they die regardless of T or armor saves so 2 wounded nob bikers DIE if you hit them on a +4 to hit

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

wuestenfux wrote:Well, the list seems competitive to me as long as you don't lose the LRR too early in the game.

Yeah, I ran a similar list to this when I played against DE yesterday and it died 1st Ravager shot of the game, and it only hit once lol, after that my termie unit got screwed and i ended up losing

Gorechild wrote:

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:

wuestenfux wrote:Well, the list seems competitive to me as long as you don't lose the LRR too early in the game.

Yeah, I ran a similar list to this when I played against DE yesterday and it died 1st Ravager shot of the game, and it only hit once lol, after that my termie unit got screwed and i ended up losing

Yeah, I'm awesome aren't I

This list it better imo, you were pretty short on long ranged anti-tank, so once that LR bit the dust it was always going to be hard. The Dreads would make things a LOT harder for anyone packing lots of light armour.