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Hq:
Anrakyer the Traveller...................................................................................................................................245
-CCB (with gauss cannon)


Overlord..........................................................................................................................................................150
-Resurrection Orb
-Phaeron
-Warscythe

Lord..................................................................................................................................................................75
-Resurrection Orb
-Warscythe

Lord..................................................................................................................................................................75
-Resurrection Orb
-Warscythe

Troop:
Warriors x14...................................................................................................................................................182

Immortals x10................................................................................................................................................170
-gauss blasters

Pyrrhian Eternals x10...................................................................................................................................170
-tesla carbines

Fast Attack:
Canoptek Scarabs x5....................................................................................................................................75

Canoptek Scarabs x5....................................................................................................................................75

Destroyers x3..................................................................................................................................................180
-Heavy Gauss Cannon (x3)

Elites:
Deathmarks x5................................................................................................................................................95

Total....................................................................................................................................................................1492

So in this list the overlord will be with the Immortals and the lords will be with the pyrrhian eternals and warriors.

My plan is to be extremely aggressive with the exception of the destroyers who will be in cover shooting from afar

I appreciate any and all opinions/suggestions and getting the models i will need is not an issue (cause sometimes people make suggestions based on the models the person has).

Thank You in advance!!
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111733.page GMT 1500 point Necrons http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111742.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111742.page GMT 1500 point Necrons FAQ stated that Anrakyr can't use his Mind in the Machine ability while on a CCB. That might change things around for you, depending.
Also, an opinionated suggestion, but perhaps you should make more use of the Crypteks and their special abilities. Eldritch lances are good to give your troop choices anti-tank, and Tremor Staves are great for slowing your enemies down. Also, you will want to take a Phaeron for a squad of at least 15-20 warriors.
For now, though, use this list, see how it works out, then start tweaking it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111774.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111774.page GMT 1500 point Necrons
Now with the spare 90 pts you can add mind shackle scarabs onto the lords and phaeron and then a weave for your phaeron. As an independent character he will almost certainly get focused on in close combat to rob you of your scythe hits and possibly following a failed rp roll your mind shackles and res orb go too, so a weave can really help him stick around. Plus you can suck up the occasional krak missile for your immortals. With the last 30pts add a scarab base to each swarm and presto, you're looking lean and mean.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111779.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111779.page GMT 1500 point Necrons
I thought the units inside an open-topped vehicle have line of sight drawn from the hull of the vehicle?

Where did you see this FAQ?

Can you link it so I can see why this is true?


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@Actinium

What if the game is kill points wouldn't my warriors be a big target then?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111782.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111782.page GMT 1500 point Necrons faq' it's the first result. You can still do something like sweep move, get out, mc a different tank to shoot and kill a third tank then assault into the tank you just mced to kill it, but that would be a lucky bit of positioning/rolling. CCBs are still a more reliable way to get Anrakyr in close enough to use mind in the machine at all, veiling him tends to get him murdered and people have learned not to put tanks anywhere near him if he's just foot slogging.

In regards to KP games, even then it's
anrakyr>heavy destroyers>deathmarks>scarabs>warriors>immortals
10 isn't a small amount of warriors, think of it as an 11 wound lord that's scoring and immune to ID. For your forward moving aggressive plan you only lose 4 gauss flayers on the move which isn't much, but you gain a bevy of survivabilty wargear and a little more scarab redundancy.

The real argument in favor of 14 warriors is you can split 5 off into a grot squad to squat an objective while still moving forward with 9+lord but then you still shouldn't be taking a res orb for 9 warriors over 30pts of mind shackles or scarab bases. While even more susceptible to giving up KPs, if you roll an objective based game you'll need to hold a warscythe back capping and you really don't want to do that.

Necrons are probably one of the hardest armies to pick kill points off of anyway and your list is centered around 2 fat res orbed immortal bricks, compared to the usual msu/transport spam armies you already have an advantage in most KP games.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111897.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111897.page GMT Re:1500 point Necrons
Hq:
Anrakyer the Traveller...................................................................................................................................245
-CCB (with gauss cannon)


Overlord..........................................................................................................................................................180
-Resurrection Orb
-Phaeron
-Warscythe
-Sempiternal Weave
-MSS

Lord..................................................................................................................................................................90
-Resurrection Orb
-Warscythe
-mind shackle scarabs

Cryptek.............................................................................................................................................................65
-solar pulse
-gaze of flame

Cryptek.............................................................................................................................................................55
-solar pulse

Troop:
Warriors x15...................................................................................................................................................195

Immortals x10................................................................................................................................................170
-gauss blasters

Pyrrhian Eternals x10...................................................................................................................................170
-tesla carbines

Fast Attack:
Canoptek Scarabs x5....................................................................................................................................75

Canoptek Scarabs x5....................................................................................................................................75

Destroyers x3..................................................................................................................................................180
-Heavy Gauss Cannon (x3)

Total....................................................................................................................................................................1500

The cryptek with Gaze will be going with the immortals while the one without it will be going with the eternals
So it would be:
Overlord+immortals+cryptek (no gaze)
and
Lord+Eternals+Cryptek (with gaze) ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4111916.page GMT 1500 point Necrons http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4118427.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4118427.page GMT 1500 point Necrons FAQ myself and we don't follow that ruling at our store currently. Anrakyer should be able to draw line of sight out the vehicle so I never saw the issue. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4119804.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4119804.page GMT 1500 point Necrons http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4121692.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4121692.page GMT 1500 point Necrons
BlackMath wrote:You can only have 2 Heavy Gauss Cannons per Destroyer unit in the new codex, but you can have up to 5 Destroyers now.


Incorrect, you upgrade up to 3 Necron Destroyers in a Destroy Squad to Heavy Destroyers
exchanging their Gauss Cannons for Heavy Gauss Cannons.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4121757.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4121757.page GMT 1500 point Necrons lol?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4121822.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4121822.page GMT 1500 point Necrons You're also now mixing shooting roles with the crypteks in with the immortals. You want the lanceteks separate so they can pop transports then the immortals can lay into the guys that fall out, or so you don't waste a lance shot against the 6pt boyz the blasters and carbines are tearing up.

Drop 5 warriors, the gaze of flame, and sempiternal weave to take an annihilation barge, split the remaining 10 warriors into two 5 man squads with the lances attached. Those will be your backfield units to cap objectives and hunt big targets along with the heavy destroyers. The immortals and anni barge make the phalanx, a brick of anti meat shooting that murders anything within 24" of itself as it marches forward. The scarabs and anrakyr are your flankers and big vehicle problem solvers, they pick an unused side of the board and use the higher mobility to sweep around some terrain and threaten the enemy's backfield.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4123828.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4123828.page GMT Re:1500 point Necrons http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4125342.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4125342.page GMT 1500 point Necrons In the equally likely event that they don't have a unit dedicated to attacking your backfield, you have 130 points of wasted warriors standing around on the objective not doing anything where just 5 guys would do.
Splitting the unit also has the benefit of sometimes wasting the enemy's fire, like instead of taking 12 wounds you just lose the 6 man unit, and the only important guy in that squad is ever-living so he may stand back up still a scoring single model unit with a lance, no chance of a failed moral test or nothing so as far as your overall game plan would be concerned you didn't lose anything. You can stand both squads on the objective, splitting just lets them shoot different things and saves half the unit from overwhelming firepower at the potential cost of a kill point.

I'm all for keeping your res orb alive longer It's just that when I dropped the gaze and 5 warriors there isn't much to add for 75points while for another 15 points by dropping weave you pick up a barge which is a super solid all purpose weapon platform. Weave was just the least helpful of the olords upgrades since it's mostly for close combat as you said but there's almost always a couple power weapon hits in there which doesn't care if you have a better save so the weave sometimes doesn't get used.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4126125.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4126125.page GMT Re:1500 point Necrons lol. So you are saying break the warrior squads into two groups of five and keep them together? I was just thinking in a kill points game that they would try to go straight for them in order to get 2 free kill points.


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also if the cryptek stands back up do they get the kill point for the warriors?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4126963.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4126963.page GMT 1500 point Necrons los to the enemies backfield, maybe get some use out of those gauss flayers.

In terms of kill points, yeah it's an overall risk splitting units like that. But on the bright side, msu warrior squads with a tek in them are only just above the immortal squads for target priority in kill point games and dead last in any other games.
Put yourself in your enemy's shoes; you have a leman russ battle tank. What do you shoot at? The heavy destroyers that can kill you? The scarabs that can kill you and are weak to blasts? Anrakyr who can control you then kill you if you don't stop his barge right now? Maybe even the relentless gauss immortals who are going to be in range to glance the bajeesus out of you next turn? The warriors at the other end of the board who only have 1 strength 8 shot that can only glance your front armor on a 6 seem like a pretty distant threat that you can clean up when and if you get by all that other stuff.

And yeah, attached court members are upgrade characters for the unit they attach to which means for all intents and purposes that cryptek is a 'unit of warriors', even by himself. No kill point until he fails his ever-living roll, he still counts as a scoring unit, and a ghost ark can target him to revive warriors.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4127171.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4127171.page GMT 1500 point Necrons http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4127287.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/440975/4127287.page GMT