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				<description><![CDATA[ Lords<br /> <br /> Vampire Lord  422pts<br /> Calvary <br /> Armor of Destiny, Red Fury, Ogre Blade, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 2, Barded Nightmare, Shield, General<br /> <br /> Master Necromancer 200pts<br /> Infantry <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 4<br /> Heroes<br /> <br /> Vampire <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> 459pts<br /> Infantry/ Chariot <br /> Coven Throne, Heavy Armor, Charmed Shield, Tali Pres, Dark Majesty, Fear Incarnate<br /> <br /> Necromancer 90pts<br /> Infantry <br /> D-Scroll<br /> <br />  Core<br /> <br /> Ghouls 400pts<br /> Infantry x40 <br /> <br /> Zombies 73pts<br /> Infantry x21 <br /> Muso+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> <br /> Zombies 73pts<br /> Infantry x21 <br /> Muso+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> <br /> Dire Wolves 40pts<br /> War Beast x5 <br /> <br /> Dire Wolves 40pts<br /> War Beast x5 <br /> <br /> Special<br /> <br /> Black Knights 445pts<br /> Calvary x14 <br /> Full Command, Barding, Lances, Banner of the Barrows<br /> <br /> Fell Bats 32pts<br /> Warbeast x2 <br /> Rare<br /> <br /> Terrorghiest <br /> Monster x1 <br /> <br /> 2499]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Johnny-Crass]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That's pretty solid.  Only issue I see is you over-invested in magic.  Too many wizard levels, not enough power dice to make use of them all.<br /> <br /> I'd make the lord a level 1, and get the book of arkhan instead (you really want to re-roll misses with black knights).<br /> I'd swap the ogre blade for a lance. (saves ~40 points)<br /> Drop the level 1 necro, and give the dispel to the level 4. (saves 65)<br /> Drop Fear Incarnate from the throne, and I usually swap the 4+ ward for the 4+ vs 1st wound (saves 50 points).<br /> <br /> That frees up 155 points.  I'd pick up either 5 Hex Wraiths or 3 Vargheists.  Both work well with a fast moving vampire general.<br /> <br /> The throne works great, the key to it is keeping in the corner of fights to minimize the number of models who can strike it.<br /> Don't over protect the vampire riding it too much, it's just as good without the rider.  You may want to shift fear incarnate to the Vampire Lord (which you can do if you go lance instead of ogre blade).<br /> <br /> -Matt<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:41:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ HawaiiMatt]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Here is a more updated version with your help Matt<br /> <br /> <br /> Vampire Lord 385<br /> Tali Pres <br /> Barded Nightmare <br /> E-Shield <br /> Heavy Armor <br /> Lance <br /> Book of Arkhan <br /> Red Fury <br /> <br /> Master Necro 225<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 4<br /> D- Scroll <br /> <br /> Vampire 424<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> <br /> Heavy Armor <br /> Coven Throne <br /> Charmed Shield <br /> Opal Amulet <br /> Dark Majesty <br /> Beguile <br /> <br /> 40 Ghouls 400<br /> <br /> 24 Zombies 82<br /> Full Command<br /> <br /> 24 Zombies 82<br /> Full Command<br /> <br /> 5 Dire Wolves 40<br /> <br /> 5 Dire Wolves 40<br /> <br /> 14 Black Knights 445<br /> Lances Barding<br /> Full Command<br /> Banner of The Barrows <br /> <br /> 5 Hex Wraiths 150<br /> <br /> Terrorghiest 225<br /> <br /> 2498<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:15:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Johnny-Crass]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Coven Throne take 1 2500</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Sorry to necro this thread, but really like this list for making my first Fantasy army (Love the coven throne model. whole reason I am starting a fantasy army) and had some questions.<br /> Would replacing the Ghouls with skeletons completely destroy its effectiveness?<br /> Since the Vampire Lord on the nightmare does not have ethereal movement, the whole Black Knight block would lose it too. Does this hurt their effectiveness and ability to keep close to the Hex Wraiths?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 8 May 2012 03:46:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dannyevilguy]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I find Skellies lack a major punch that ghouls have without buffs.<br /> The lack of ethereal movement does not really matter except he has to take dangerous terrain tests for forests and the like.  But his unit keeps their movement.  I find I move my wraiths to keep up with my knights not the other way round.<br /> <br /> I made what I think is a better version of this list title <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(138);'>VC</span> 2500 Tournament I think.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 8 May 2012 04:06:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Johnny-Crass]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm liking the revised list a lot.  Will give it a field run tonight and see what I can come up with.<br /> <br /> I think I'll use the Necro as the General and that way I can throw the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(138);'>VC</span> Lord into combat and not really care if he goes pop?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 May 2012 16:05:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Vamp Lord has to be the general due to having the highest <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span>.  Also you need his <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> 10 bubble for the throne]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 May 2012 16:08:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Johnny-Crass]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Pretty sure all the BK's lose their movement if joined by a character that does not have it. So all would have to make checks. Do not see the point of a musician with zombies. Never had them come close to a tied combat. <br /> I would sack the Master necro, add a second Terrorgheist and find points to put a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 1 Necro <br /> Drop the dogs, and if possible drop the Zombies down to 20 man blocks with banners and add a spirit host block]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 May 2012 18:12:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Rivet]]></author>
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