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I've been contemplating picking up a 1911 for quite a while now, and I've always held off. I love my HK45C, but I have tiny little carnie hands, and Mr. Browning apparently designed the 1911 exclusively for me. It fits better and I shoot it better than anything else I've ever touched. The HK's a beautiful if soulless thing, but the 1911 softly sings my name while pouring me a glass of scotch and lighting my cigarette. I can only resist such seduction for so long.

The candidates have been narrowed down to the Dan Wesson Valor and the Les Baer Custom Carry. We're going fairly high end, as I only have a few more months of being utterly irresponsible with my money left. The Valor (or Valor Bobtail, haven't decided) should win this; it's more accurate than I'll ever be, the VBOB in particular's designed for carry, and it's a good-looking gun. I'm ashamed to admit, however, that the allure of the hand-crafted, guaranteed 3" group at 50 yards Baer is preventing me from pulling the trigger on the Valor. Baer won't bobtail their guns, so as a carry piece, it's not as good. It's uglier. You have to break it in. But it's a hundred bucks more for arguably a better gun.

So, if you had $1800 to play with, which would you go with?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4121567.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4121567.page GMT Let's Talk 1911s
Seaward wrote:Yep, another gun thread. Sorry.

I've been contemplating picking up a 1911 for quite a while now, and I've always held off. I love my HK45C, but I have tiny little carnie hands, and Mr. Browning apparently designed the 1911 exclusively for me. It fits better and I shoot it better than anything else I've ever touched. The HK's a beautiful if soulless thing, but the 1911 softly sings my name while pouring me a glass of scotch and lighting my cigarette. I can only resist such seduction for so long.

The candidates have been narrowed down to the Dan Wesson Valor and the Les Baer Custom Carry. We're going fairly high end, as I only have a few more months of being utterly irresponsible with my money left. The Valor (or Valor Bobtail, haven't decided) should win this; it's more accurate than I'll ever be, the VBOB in particular's designed for carry, and it's a good-looking gun. I'm ashamed to admit, however, that the allure of the hand-crafted, guaranteed 3" group at 50 yards Baer is preventing me from pulling the trigger on the Valor. Baer won't bobtail their guns, so as a carry piece, it's not as good. It's uglier. You have to break it in. But it's a hundred bucks more for arguably a better gun.

So, if you had $1800 to play with, which would you go with?


I've never ever ever heard anything bad about a Les Baer work of art. EVER. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4121709.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4121709.page GMT Re:Let's Talk 1911s http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4122226.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4122226.page GMT Re:Let's Talk 1911s Id ask myself these questions

Do I want a 1911 and add some modifications?
Do I want a 1911 and not do modifications?

Which ever one you answer yes to, youll get a better idea of where to start. If yes to modifications, then obviously go a cheaper 1911, and with the money left over, youl be able to add some nice touched to it. For example, Im really considering buying a Rock River Arms 1911, because you can get them pretty cheap, which leaves you tons of cash for making it better and more to your liking.

If yes to not modding it, well then, start looking at some really nice, well known name brands, because with those, sure they cost alot, but you are getting the best of the best, and therefor you wont need to mod it at all]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4122287.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4122287.page GMT Re:Let's Talk 1911s
Got a quote on a Baer Custom Carry with no front cocking serrations and Baer blued finish for $1830. Think I'm pulling the trigger on it Monday.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124019.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124019.page GMT Let's Talk 1911s
http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/custom-ii/custom-tle-ii]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124056.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124056.page GMT Let's Talk 1911s
Lordhat wrote:No love for the Kimber Custom TLE?

http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/custom-ii/custom-tle-ii

Nah. You hear about a lot of problems with Kimbers. I figure this is mostly because they sell more 1911s than damn near anybody else, but still. About the only production gun I'd consider at this point, having learned what these high-end handmade semi-custom guns can do, is something from Dan Wesson. I've turned into a pompous 1911 snob without ever having owned a 1911 yet. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124067.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124067.page GMT Let's Talk 1911s http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124071.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124071.page GMT Let's Talk 1911s
Lordhat wrote:Never had a problem with my TLE II, best friend had run over 100,000 rounds through his TLE last I knew of, and never had a problem other than comes with a dirty gun. (Several hundered rounds during an outing does dirty a gun some.)

Yep. As I said, I attribute the stories you hear of Kimber malfunctions largely to the fact that Kimber may well be the most popular 1911 maker in the world right now, and simply sells a metric fuckton of the things. They're good guns. The Marines wouldn't have picked 'em if they weren't.

But, I've got the opportunity to go needlessly high-end at the moment, and I reckon I might as well take it. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124218.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124218.page GMT Re:Let's Talk 1911s http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124292.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124292.page GMT Let's Talk 1911s http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124321.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124321.page GMT Re:Let's Talk 1911s http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124640.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4124640.page GMT Re:Let's Talk 1911s http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4125096.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4125096.page GMT Re:Let's Talk 1911s
Ouze wrote:I don't yet own any firearms, but have long considered owning one. The 1911 is my primary candidate.


Get a bow.

Archery is relaxing.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4125107.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4125107.page GMT Let's Talk 1911s and it has to be hi-capa combat version not accuracy-focused ones. pistols are primarily designed for close fights. right?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4128555.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4128555.page GMT Re:Let's Talk 1911s ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4128781.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4128781.page GMT Re:Let's Talk 1911s
KingCracker wrote:Indeed they are. Hitting tight groups at 50 yards is pretty impressive with a pistol, but they are mainly used for incounters withing 50 feet

Absolutely true.

But a gun that's more accurate at 50 yards is going to be more accurate at 10. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4132211.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4132211.page GMT Let's Talk 1911s http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4132225.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4132225.page GMT Re:Let's Talk 1911s
Seaward wrote:
KingCracker wrote:Indeed they are. Hitting tight groups at 50 yards is pretty impressive with a pistol, but they are mainly used for incounters withing 50 feet

Absolutely true.

But a gun that's more accurate at 50 yards is going to be more accurate at 10.



Now that I will disagree with. A gun that is highly accurate at 50, will be highly accurate at 10. But a handgun that is highly accurate at 10 yards, might not be accurate at 50. But the end result is the same, in close quarters (the thing handguns are mainly for) a high end will put a hole in someones chest the same as a dirt cheap one. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4132237.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/441493/4132237.page GMT