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HQ
Lysander 200
Kantor 175

Elites
10 man Sterngaurd, 3 combi melta in a drop pod. 300
10 man Sterngaurd, 3 combi melta in a drop pod. 300
Riffleman dread in a drop pod 160

Toops
10 man Tac Flamer missle launcher in a rhino 205
10 man Tac Flamer missle launcher in a rhino 205

Fast
Landspeeder typhoon 90

Heavy
Auto/las pred 120
auto/las pred 120
auto/las pred 120

Total: 1995

I figured I could ad another combi weapon to one of the squads to get to 2k. My thinking on the dread would be to sit him in a bolstered ruin and send his drop pod down empy. Geting the odd number of pods lets me play with how I want the two sterngaurd squads to arrive (either a really tough alpha Strike, or more delayed). Other than that everything sits back and open up rides and the sterngaurd shoot them to death up close. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4162266.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4162266.page GMT 2000 sm Lysander and Kantor? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4162345.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4162345.page GMT 2000 sm Lysander and Kantor?
It is a really good list other than that, I think it would work really well, though I would give your army more melta in general. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4163885.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4163885.page GMT 2000 sm Lysander and Kantor? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4164518.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4164518.page GMT 2000 sm Lysander and Kantor? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4164586.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4164586.page GMT Re:2000 sm Lysander and Kantor? MM/HF Dread or AC/HF then I would understand but as it is I am not understanding...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4164594.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4164594.page GMT 2000 sm Lysander and Kantor?
I love Pedro and plan on pairing him with Sicarius for Ld 10 Stubborn army-wide. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4164616.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4164616.page GMT Re:2000 sm Lysander and Kantor?
SlaveToDorkness wrote:
How are you getting a bolstered ruin?

Lysander has the rule that bolsters ruins. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4164639.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4164639.page GMT 2000 sm Lysander and Kantor?
I usually include a standard LR with assault termies and Kantor together for some assault goodness.

Otherwise it's a decent list and pretty fluffy too (Fist Force)!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4165677.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4165677.page GMT 2000 sm Lysander and Kantor? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4165705.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4165705.page GMT Re:2000 sm Lysander and Kantor? KP your giving away if you do use one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4166029.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4166029.page GMT Re:2000 sm Lysander and Kantor? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4166038.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4166038.page GMT Re:2000 sm Lysander and Kantor?
riverhawks32 wrote:The only problem I have with this is that with the drop podded Dread, the autocannons are a moot point as you are not utilizing that 48 inch range....Now say it was a MM/HF Dread or AC/HF then I would understand but as it is I am not understanding...


The point of the drop pod for the riflemen dread is to allow both sterngaurd squads to auto arrive turn 1 if I want them to. I would almost always send the dread drop pod down empty and just normal deploy the riflemen in a ruin if possible. Sure it's an extra kill poin but it will come in later in the game and I can drop it away from the action so it is a low priority target.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4166053.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4166053.page GMT 2000 sm Lysander and Kantor?
That being said, I believe the Speeder is either not needed or in need of a twin. You could either drop it and use the extra points to buy some gear for you Sternguards (more combi-melta, I usually put a minimum of a 4 per squad) and Tactical/Sternguard sergeants - you get +1 attack from Pedro, take advantage of it.

Or, you could drop a Predator and then get another Speeder and fill your Sternguard squads with the remaining points with combis and/or Heavy flamer(s).

My two cents! Nice army BTW!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4166168.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4166168.page GMT Re:2000 sm Lysander and Kantor? SM codex detaily, anyway why you want take 2 special char, when you CANT use both chapter tactics together.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4166222.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4166222.page GMT Re:2000 sm Lysander and Kantor?
Udunai wrote:I think that the best way is to read SM codex detaily, anyway why you want take 2 special char, when you CANT use both chapter tactics together.


Lysanders Special rule is to make your units stubborn, Kantors rule is to make your units stuborn and sterngaurd scoring. So you don't really give anything up from lysander by talso aking kantor. The benifits of Lysanders bolter drill buff sterngaurd hard and he adds a nice CC ability to them as a squad (as does Kantor to anyone he is within 12" of) and you don't have to give that up. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4166340.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4166340.page GMT Re:2000 sm Lysander and Kantor?
Pony_law wrote:
riverhawks32 wrote:The only problem I have with this is that with the drop podded Dread, the autocannons are a moot point as you are not utilizing that 48 inch range....Now say it was a MM/HF Dread or AC/HF then I would understand but as it is I am not understanding...


The point of the drop pod for the riflemen dread is to allow both sterngaurd squads to auto arrive turn 1 if I want them to. I would almost always send the dread drop pod down empty and just normal deploy the riflemen in a ruin if possible. Sure it's an extra kill poin but it will come in later in the game and I can drop it away from the action so it is a low priority target.


I totally get this...Why didn't I think of this? Excellent tactic.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4168521.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/443631/4168521.page GMT