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				<title>Blood Angels 'Red Fleas' vs Dark Eldar 'Venom Spam' - 2,000 points</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.imperiusdominatus.com/2012/04/battle-report-blood-angels-vs-dark.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.imperiusdominatus.com/2012/04/battle-report-blood-angels-vs-dark.html</a><br /> <br /> Game with Poddy last night, he's using my D.E again and this is now his third game with them. I'm bringing out the Red Fleas again, last time I played with them I lost, so I am hoping to score a victory. Plus Poddy really hates the Fleas <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <b>Blood Angels 'Red Fleas' - 2,000 points</b><br /> <br /> <br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b><br /> <br /> <br /> Librarian - jump pack, shield of sangunius & unleash rage<br /> Librarian - jump pack, shield of sangunius & unleash rage <br /> Honour Guard - jump packs, 4 x meltaguns & melta bombs<br /> <br /> <b>Elite</b><br /> <br /> <br /> 2 x Sanguinary Priests - jump packs<br /> <br /> <b>Troops</b><br /> <br /> <br /> 10 x Assault Marines - 2 x meltaguns - Sgt w/ power fist<br /> 10 x Assault Marines - 2 x meltaguns - Sgt w/ power fist <br /> 10 x Assault Marines - 2 x flamers - Sgt w/ power weapon<br /> 10 x Assault Marines - 2 x flamers - Sgt w/ power weapon <br /> 5 x Scouts - sniper rifles & camo cloaks<br /> <br /> <b>Heavy Support</b><br /> <br /> <br /> 5 x Devastators - 4 x missile launchers<br /> 5 x Devastators - 4 x missile launchers <br /> 5 x Devastators - 4 x missile launchers <br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Dark Eldar 'Kabal of a Thousand Cuts' - 2,000 points</b><br /> <br /> <br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b><br /> <br /> <br /> Baron Sathonyx<br /> <br /> <b>Elite</b><br /> <br /> <br /> 4 x Kabalite Trueborn w/ Venom - 4 x blasters - Venom w/ splinter cannon<br /> 4 x Kabalite Trueborn w/ Venom - 4 x blasters - Venom w/ splinter cannon<br /> 3 x Kabalite Trueborn w/ Venom - 3 x blasters - Venom w/ splinter cannon<br /> <br /> <b>Troops</b><br /> <br /> <br /> 5 x Kabalite Warriors w/ Venom - blaster - Venom w/ splinter cannon<br /> 5 x Kabalite Warriors w/ Venom - blaster - Venom w/ splinter cannon <br /> 5 x Kabalite Warriors w/ Venom - blaster - Venom w/ splinter cannon <br /> 5 x Kabalite Warriors w/ Venom - blaster - Venom w/ splinter cannon <br /> 5 x Kabalite Warriors w/ Venom - blaster - Venom w/ splinter cannon <br /> 5 x Kabalite Warriors w/ Venom - blaster - Venom w/ splinter cannon <br /> <br /> <b>Fast Attack</b><br /> <br /> <br /> Beastmasters - 3 x Beastmasters, 5 x Khymerae & 4 x Razorwing Flocks<br /> Beastmasters - 3 x Beastmasters, 5 x Khymerae & 4 x Razorwing Flocks <br /> <br /> <b>Heavy Support</b><br /> <br /> <br /> Ravager - flickerfield<br /> Ravager - flickerfield <br /> Ravager - flickerfield <br /> <br /> <b>Pre-Game Analysis</b><br /> <br /> <br /> This is going to be a interesting battle. The Dark Eldar have speed and fire power on their side, my Blood Angels have speed and thump you in the face death. If my Blood Angels can catch the Dark Eldar then I should be able to take care of the dark kin. If I cannot catch the D.E, then it will be a shooting gallery.<br /> <br /> Lances and poison worry me here, so I'll try and go for Trueborn Venoms first, that will kill two birds with one stone. Then missiles can deal with the Ravagers after while the Assault Marines close in and deal with the Venoms.<br /> <br /> <b>Game:</b> Seize Ground + Pitched Battle<br /> <br /> <b>Deployment</b><br /> <br /> <br /> Poddy wins the roll off and deploys first. He splits his army, which is a bit of a surprise as I keep harping on about not to do that. On the left flank he puts five Venoms along with Baron and Beastmasters. On the right flank he puts all the Ravagers and remaining Venoms along with the other Beastmaster unit, which is in the far left corner.<br /> <br /> I deploy putting two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Devs</span> in the large tall ruin in the centre and one unit in a smaller ruin in the centre. All Assault Marines deploy on the left flank as there's more Venoms there and I would rather deal with the threat head on. I do also combat squad a melta unit.<br /> <br /> Objectives had been previously placed with one on each flank where Poddy had deployed his forces, one in the large ruin where the two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Devs</span> are, I also deploy my Scouts here <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span> and the last one ontop of the shrine ruin (Jesse's boot!)<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358190_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358191_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358192_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358193_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358194_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <i>* Tactical Notes<br /> <br /> <br /> Ok, Poddy has split his army, which is usually a death sentence for Dark Eldar, I just hope I can capitalise on it. I've put all Assault Marines on the left flank, reason for this is there's more Venoms there, which is a bad thing, but I can reach the Venom threats easier here than deploying else where as the splinter cannons easily out range me. If I can make a impact on this flank, then I should have smooth runnings.<br /> <br /> <br /> I'll also note that I expect those Devastators to be dead or massively depleted first turn. It's a bit gutting as it takes away my long range support, though at least the Assault Marines can move up with full strength units.</i><br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Turn 1</b><br /> <br /> <br /> Poddy holds three Venoms and Baron's Beastmasters in position while three Venoms fly over a ruin and land in the centre. The force on the right flank comes down 12" so half way across the board while the Beastmasters move and run into terrain.<br /> <br /> Shooting; lance and splinter cannon death blast the Devastators to pieces, after the dust has settled I am left with a depleted Devastator unit with two Marines, who fail morale and fall back 6" down the ruin - bad times and a good start for Poddy.<br /> <br /> Right, so my ranged shooting has been obliterated and no doubt will be polished off next turn. I move all Assault Marines up towards the Venoms, running them at the same time. My only shooting is from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Devs</span> which auto regroup, they fire at one of the Venoms in the centre and score a penetrating hit, which flickerfield saves. Oh, the Scouts fire at the Beastmasters on the right flank, though Poddy makes the cover save.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358195_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358196_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <i>* Tactical Notes<br /> <br /> <br /> Ok, I expected that loss first turn. I don't like it, though I have to live with it and suck it up. At least Poddy hasn't got to worry about salvos of missiles blowing up his cardboard planes or fragging his little beasties. <br /> <br /> <br /> Next turn I hope I can bound forward next turn and make a better splash. I've got the combat melta squad and Honour Guard who both should be easily in range. Also, if Poddy does come out with Baron's Beastmasters I can counter assault with all my Assault Marines and use the consolidation move from combat to spring board my units closer to D.E forces.</i><br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Turn 2</b><br /> <br /> <br /> Poddy keeps his distance with the Venoms on the right flank and moves the three from the centre to join them. Three Venoms still remain on the left, who move back so against the table edge, though Baron's Beastmasters pull back. The other Beastmasters move paritially through terrain.<br /> <br /> Shooting; Venoms on the right flank empty into the two Devastators, takes three Venoms to put the two dudes down. Remaining shots on the right flank blast into the Scouts, they go to ground for a 2+ cover save (camo cloaks) and only one youth snuffs it. The triple Venoms on the left flank fire salvos into the Honour Guard, who are crap and making any saves and only one guy lives - he fails morale and falls back 15".<br /> <br /> My second turn; I was thinking of bounding out the two flamer units and sending them towards the mass of Venoms floating about on the right, I would have to put up with the pain for a turn, though next turn I should be able to do something. I decide to keep them in position and use the shrine ruin for cover. The combat squad melta unit and the full size unit move up to slag Venoms while the single Honour Guard regroups.<br /> <br /> Shooting; combat squad fires at a Venom, I score two penetrating hits which flickerfield fails to save, though I roll low on the vehicle damage table and only manage to immobilise and score weapon destroyed - rubbish! The full strength unit is out of range, great.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358197_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358198_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358199_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <i>* Tactical Notes<br /> <br /> <br /> Well, that was a extremely poor turn of events. I know it's only turn 2, but I think my dice have deserted me before this game even started. I've failed two morale tests, lost a Honour Guard unit almost two two Venoms as they are incapable of saving anything, meltas cannot bust a Venom and one cannot do anything full stop! I am on my soap box!<br /> <br /> <br /> In Poddy's camp things are going well. He's got some nice distance between myself and him and can shoot me to death at his own pace. As long as he gives me the run about he will be fine. He also has the added bonus of no long range fire support of mine to worry about.<br /> <br /> <br /> Next turn I'll bound up and slag that immobilised Venom and hopefully I can kill something. Other than that there's not a fat lot I can do.</i><br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Turn 3</b><br /> <br /> <br /> Not a huge amount of movement this turn from Poddy, he just moves all his D.E vehicles more closer together while the immobilised Venom is left to fend for itself.<br /> <br /> Shooting; Scouts get blasted by splinter cannons and lances, I go to ground and lose a youth - squad passes morale test. The smaller melta unit gets blasted with splinter cannons, two plain Assault Marines live, though they fail morale and fall back, great. I think that's about it.<br /> <br /> My third turn; all three Assault Squads bounce up so they are almost surrounding the single Venom. The single Honour Guard goes on a suicide run and bounds out to the line of Venoms.<br /> <br /> Shooting; meltas blast the Venom and score weapon destroyed, yay! Single Honour Guard fires at the Venom, though rolls a 1 to penetrate, great. That's all I've got.<br /> <br /> Assault; melta unit charge the Venom and manages to wreck it with mass attacks, as I have surrounded the Venom the Warriors cannot disembark and are destroyed.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358200_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358201_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358202_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <i>* Tactical Notes<br /> <br /> <br /> Yay! I've killed two things and only got the other one because being cunning as a fox. So, with a D.E vehicle down I can start smashing up the others, oh, wait, they are miles away and I've lost all my heavy support...<br /> <br /> <br /> There's little chance I can win this game. My Scouts are hanging on, though I doubt they will last long. If I can hold onto that objective with the Scouts and claim the one on the left flank and the one in the shrine ruin then I may win. I doubt this will happen and really I am looking at a draw at the best.</i><br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Turn 4</b><br /> <br /> <br /> Little movement for Poddy again, he just flanks Ravagers down so they can target the other combat squad, who I had placed in the small ruin where the single unit of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Devs</span> were positioned. Beastmasters on the right flank move up, looks like they smell fresh Scout!<br /> <br /> Shooting; Poddy blasts the combat squad with lances and splinter cannons, two are left who fail morale and fall back off the table! Splinter cannons start blasting a already depleted flamer unit, they drop down to about 6 Marines.<br /> <br /> Assault; Beastmasters attempt to charge the Scouts, though fail to make the terrain roll.<br /> <br /> Blood Angels forth turn; I bounce the two Assault Marines from the melta combat squad over by the shrine ruin, the full strength flamer unit moves up by them to give feel no pain from the Priest and also act as a shield for the depleted flamer unit behind, they have the left flank objective.<br /> <br /> Shooting; nothing for me!<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358203_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358204_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <i>* Tactical Notes<br /> <br /> <br /> Well, that was a eventful turn - that's dripping in e-sarcasm <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span>. While I haven't done any offensive this turn, I have got things in place for next turn and if my Scouts hold on I may get a sneaky win.<br /> <br /> <br /> Next turn I'll bounce those two Assault Marines and the depleted flamer unit onto the objective on the shrine ruin. The larger unit and melta unit will hold the left flank objective. With any luck my Scouts will hold out and the game will end turn 5 and I pick up a very sneaky win <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"></i><br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Turn 5</b><br /> <br /> <br /> Little movement from Poddy, the only significant movement is a unit of Warriors bail out their Venom and move and run up through the ruin and park next to the remaining Scouts - they now contest that objective.<br /> <br /> Shooting; I forget to cast shield like a numpety, so lances are a go along with splinter cannons and drop the full man flamer unit down to 4 guys - I pass morale. The two man unit gets shot, one guy lives and passes morale. Scouts get blasted and two remain.<br /> <br /> Assault; Beastmasters charge through terrain to get at the Scouts, the two Scouts attempt to fight the pack of dark kin beasts, though Razorwings and Khymerae rip them up. The large ruin objective now belongs to Dark Eldar.<br /> <br /> Blood Angels turn; I bounce the single Assault Marine and squad of four ontop of the shrine ruin and claim the objective, all pass dangerous terrain tests. Depleted flamer unit rings around the left flank objective to stop skimmers moving flat out to contest. Melta unit moves out to attack Baron's Beastmasters. That's it for me.<br /> <br /> Melta unit charges the Beastmasters, I lose two Marines before I strike, though Baron gets battered and Beastmasters need a double 1 to pass morale, they fail and the Assault Marines catch them in sweeping advance. I consolidate a massive 2" back towards the left flank objective. At least no fast moving Beastmasters can attempt to contest the left flank objective.<br /> <br /> We roll for game and it continues.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358205_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358206_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <b>Turn 6</b><br /> <br /> <br /> Little movement from Poddy again, he just moves his skimmers to get better <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>, that's about it. He then blasts the single Assault Marine by the shrine objective and kills him, he blasts the other unit on the shrine though they all survive. Splinter cannons and lances torrent the flamer unit holding the left flank objective, squad is wiped out.<br /> <br /> My only chance to square a draw is to move and run the melta unit which battered the Beastmasters and Baron, I jump them 12" and roll a.....1 for run, bollocks! I end up a total 4" away from the objective.<br /> <br /> We roll for game and it ends here. Poddy picks up his first unaided <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> victory! Gooooooo Poddy! <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358207_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358208_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/4/25/358209_md-.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> <b>Summary</b><br /> <br /> <br /> That was a slightly different game from what I was expecting. I'll get in like a typical loser and whinge about how crap my dice were, I really shouldn't fail four morale tests a game and Honour Guard shouldn't drop like flies, meltas should also slag open topped vehicles. But, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> is a dice game, which a lot of people forget, no matter how good your plans are, you are still at the mercy of the dice.<br /> <br /> On a different note, I am thinking of switching out the melta bombs and meltaguns on the Honour Guard and giving them plasma guns. My list lacks rate of fire power, which I've needed in two games now. I never really charge the Honour Guard into combat against infantry as I don't want my anti tank unit locked in combat. Plus with the plasma guns gets hot shouldn't be a problem thanks to feel no pain.<br /> <br /> Now after all my bitchin', I don't want to take anything away from Poddy as he played a awesome game. He kept well away from my Blood Angels so I couldn't assault him and used his longer range guns to decrease my numbers over the course of the game. As soon as he had those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Devs</span> dusted he really had little to worry about. He played well and out played me, I'm pleased for his first win at <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> - well done mate!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He did awesome! I actually liked his strategy in running two flanks. Against blood angels who try to huddle up for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FnP</span> and libby buffs I think it works well. I think he may be a natual <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> player..... Though don't tell his Tau that <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think he's a natural D.E player as over the three games he has been using my D.E he has 'cheated' or attempt to several times <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> . And yes, he played extremely well, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>TBH</span> I wasn't expecting anything like that at all.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ha ha thats too good!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He has learnt from the university cunning as a fox <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Very well done by Poddy.  Do you think this is a game where using a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(493);'>DoA</span> approach might have been beneficial to you (I know that is not the original design of the Fleas)?  <br /> <br /> I have played this game against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> Venom spam before.  When they can shoot and move 12" it is a lose proposition.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, I possibly think deep striking may have been a option here.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Blood Angels 'Red Fleas' vs Dark Eldar 'Venom Spam' - 2,000 points</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I think this was my favourite game to date <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">. I have to admit I do like the way Dark Eldar play. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Red Corsair wrote:</cite>He did awesome! I actually liked his strategy in running two flanks.</div></blockquote><br /> I'm a Tactical Genius is why.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>mercer wrote:</cite>I think he's a natural D.E player <strike>as over the three games he has been using my D.E he has 'cheated' or attempt to several times</strike>.</div></blockquote><br /> I'd say I'm the greatest Dark Eldar player ever. I play them they way they were designed to be played. Hitler's 'nids wouldn't stand a chance.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>calypso2ts wrote:</cite>Do you think this is a game where using a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(493);'>DoA</span> approach might have been beneficial to you (I know that is not the original design of the Fleas)?</div></blockquote><br /> It would have been no option. I had planned my tactics for any and every scenario. All Mercer's Fleas could do was roll over and die to my superior stratagems.<br /> <br /> In all seriousness, thanks for the kind words and praise guys. My first win at <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> ever after oooh around 16 months of playing!  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:32:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What puzzled me was the deployment of those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span>. Think the game would have turned out differently were they deployed behind the assault squads or at least way back capitalizing on their 48´range. As it was now the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> were basically free giveaways since the whole <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> army had easy range to them and/or could close in range without having to come closer to the assault squads.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Pyriel- wrote:</cite>What puzzled me was the deployment of those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span>. Think the game would have turned out differently were they deployed behind the assault squads or at least way back capitalizing on their 48´range. As it was now the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> were basically free giveaways since the whole <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> army had easy range to them and/or could close in range without having to come closer to the assault squads.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> If the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Devs</span> would have been put behind the Assault Squads, then they would have been on a hill on the left flank. They would have had <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> blocking terrain in their view and still easy for D.E to kill as they have effectively 48" range on those splinter cannons. No matter where the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Devs</span> would be deployed they would die anyway, just the middle gives me better <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> options. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Pilgrim Pod wrote:</cite><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>mercer wrote:</cite>I think he's a natural D.E player <strike>as over the three games he has been using my D.E he has 'cheated' or attempt to several times</strike>.</div></blockquote><br /> I'd say I'm the greatest Dark Eldar player ever. I play them they way they were designed to be played. Hitler's 'nids wouldn't stand a chance.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">  I am gonna watch that now. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Good report.  As a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> player I find a good <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> list is a tough one to beat.  <br /> <br /> Keep em comming!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks, dude <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Good rep, some unlucky dice rolls for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span>, but still a good victory for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span>, not trying to play that down.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks about the report, bud. Yup, some crappy dice rolls for B.A, but that's just how it rolls and D.E picked up a nice win <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> .]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So in other words these kind of setups are like going back to previous crappy editions where whomever gets first turn wins.<br /> <br /> Meaning if <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> win first turn those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> are free kill points, if <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> wins first turn, those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> will down potentially 3 vehicles...and then be wiped in return.<br /> <br /> Plus I think it is a horrible mistake on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GWs</span> part to design an army that can o n l y be defeated by another very shooty army, no melee oriented army stands the slightest chance against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> boat spam and that I think is extremely bad game design. <br /> <br /> <br /> Nice batrep though, appreciate the time and effort you put into these.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:04:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think you're spot on with what you've just said. If D.E go first the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Devs</span> are dead, if B.A go first some D.E vehicles get busted. Just due to my board and terrain putting them else where isn't viable. <br /> <br /> Partly agree. There's always some list which can trump another, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> is a bit like paper-scissors-rock. The D.E in this case have plenty of anti infantry and speed. It's just the way the cookie crumbles. Plus, we know you hate D.E boat spam <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I hate <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> boat spam, nooo, what makes you think that<img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:12:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I have to say the most comical match up is when someone plays Raven heavy Grey Knights against a Dark Eldar list akin to yours Mercer. I have a good friend who has a list very similar and he equated the match up to Squadrons of Japanese Zeros trying to shoot down a few F4U Corsairs during World War 2...Long Story short, the Ravens blast every Eldar Vehicle out of the sky and all that's left is pouty sadomasochistic fairies...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> nice comparsion. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That game was really decided turn one when practically all of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> were wiped out.  At that point you are trying to chase down a plane as a bird.  I have to say though I actually enjoy doing a split deployment like that since with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> speed we can force the opponent to deploy across the board and then swoop together and hit one part of the army.  <br /> <br /> Congrats on the win Poddy!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, you're right. Once those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Devs</span> were all Poddy had to do was keep his distance and whittle my numbers down. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ should have one of the priests with the devistators to give them <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> against splinter cannons.<br /> <br /> Luckily Poddy didnt take night shields on his vehilces or you never would have gotten in range with anythign but a missile launcher.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ why didnt you <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> your army?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Exergy wrote:</cite>should have one of the priests with the devistators to give them <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> against splinter cannons.<br /> <br /> Luckily Poddy didnt take night shields on his vehilces or you never would have gotten in range with anythign but a missile launcher.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I was thinking that to be honest.<br /> <br /> That D.E army he is using is mine, which doesn't have night shields, though you do make a fair point. <br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Smitty0305 wrote:</cite>why didnt you <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> your army?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Not a fan of deep striking. Though in this situation it would have been a more favourable option. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nice report, the photos could use some errows and what not though.  The step by step on turns worked well to understand what was going on.<br /> <br /> Sorry about your roles, that was lame, BUT your scouts really held out which was cool, go scouts. <br /> <br /> Poddy did real well, totally smoked you with rang, Double flank is a great move, and fist strike <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> gone. Too easy,<br /> <br /> Nice move on the serouding transport.  No where to run.  I have both small armies but never played them (or built yet) but this helps with some tactics. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Adrian Fue Fue]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Adrian Fue Fue wrote:</cite>Poddy did real well, totally smoked you with rang, Double flank is a great move, and fist strike <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> gone. Too easy,</div></blockquote><br /> Thanks mate. I particularly liked the part where... I won! <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Joking aside, a few of the guys mentioned the 'Fleas' perhaps deep striking instead and on a personal note the possibility of that never even crossed my mind. Mercer's never done that before when playing me. I thought that if I split my army into two forces (Mercer has always told me it's a big no! no!) as far apart as possible Mercer would have to either concentrate on one portion or split his own force to hit both sides simultaneously. My thinking on that was if he split his force I would concentrate all my fire power on just one side of his army, hoping to wipe them out before they reached my force and then to pick off the other side with the portion of my force that was now safe at range as he engaged my units on my opposite side. Obviously I would have tried to turbo boost the units in harms way over to the 'safe' side of my force.<br /> <br /> My tactics for If he kept his force together and hit one flank played out pretty much as in the battle report above. Just like Hannibal, I love it when a plan comes together. <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> I knew that his biggest threat initially  was always going to be those Devastators and so I tried to be rid of them and their pesky missile launchers asap.  I'm slowly learning target priority!<br /> <br /> If Mercer had deep striked the Fleas my best laid plans formulated over the previous two days at work would probably have turned to fudge.  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Do you know what Adrian, I think I could learn to like this <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> malarkey. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Red Fleas as an army still scare the pants off me!<br /> <br /> VS my standard lists, it would be uphill as hell battle, l Iike the list <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah Ratius, when Mercer first fielded them against my Tau he tabled me if I recall correctly... And then the second time too. Those Fleas are something of an anomaly in the mech heavy world of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span>. A Venom Spam <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> list however has the tools to do well against them with the sheer weight of poisoned shots those Venoms and their passengers can kick out coupled with the speed of the army in general to keep range and avoid trouble.<br /> <br /> Like Mercer always says 'Life's like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get.' and '<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> can be compared sometimes to a game of rock, paper, scissors.'. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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