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				<description><![CDATA[ Alright, here is my revised <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> list for the tournament I plan on going to, which is quite some time from now. Plenty of time to finish modelling/painting, all the while practicing, practicing and revising.<br /> <br /> <br /> This list totals up to 1996pts.<br /> <br /> <u><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></u> - 315pts.<br /> 1. Father Gorbugalcyst - Lord with Wings, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> and Daemon Weapon. - 170pts.<br /> <br /> 2. Uncle Lagranos - Sorcerer with Familiar, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> and Doombolt - 145pts.<br /> <br /> <br /> <u>Troops</u> - 1141pts.<br /> 1. Plague Marines x7 - Champion with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>; Icon; x2 Plasmaguns - 236pts.<br /> <br /> 2. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PMs</span> x5 - Champ with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> & Combi-melta; Icon; x2 Meltaguns; in Rhino w/ Combi-melta - 235 pts.<br /> <br /> 3. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PMs</span> x5 - Champ with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PW</span> & Icon; x2 Flamers; in Rhino w/ Combi-melta - 205pts.<br />  -- Uncle Lagranos rides with these cronies.<br /> <br /> 4. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PMs</span> x5 - Champ with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> & Icon; x2 Meltaguns; in Rhino w/ Combi-melta - 225pts.<br /> <br /> 5. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSMs</span> x9 - Champ with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PW</span>; <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(75);'>IoCG</span>; x2 Meltaguns; in Rhino w/ Combi-melta - 240 pts.<br /> <br /> <br /> <u>Fast Attack</u> - 240pts.<br /> 1. Raptors x7 - Champ with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>; IoN; x2 Flamers - 240pts.<br />  -- Father Gorbugalcyst blazes around with these demented flyboys.<br /> <br /> <br /> <u>Heavy Support</u> - 300 pts.<br /> 1. Obliterators x2 - 150pts.<br /> <br /> 2. Obliterators x2 - 150pts.<br /> <br /> <br /> Alternative for the place of my Lord as follows:<br /> <br /> Mhagel'nys'zease - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> with Wings, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, Warptime - 175pts.<br /> <br /> <br /> Also, my Raptors would be replaced by the following:<br /> <br /> Chosen x6. - Champ with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>; <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(75);'>IoCG</span>; x2 Flamers; in Rhino w/ Combi-melta - 238pts.<br /> <br /> <br /> If I place those into the list instead, it brings the total to 1999pts.<br /> <br /> Questions, comments, and criticisms appreciated.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Gorandius]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Revised 2k CSM Nurgle list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I like the list. The Lord with Wings running with a squad of Raptors is inventive and unique.<br /> <br /> I wonder if you need 5 Troops units. Perhaps thin down by one unit and beef up your Oblits to squads of 3. Then use any points left over to beef up squad counts.<br /> <br /> Just my 2¢]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 May 2012 07:02:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mizzri]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, you don't need that many troops. I'd take 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span> squads of 7 Marines with 2 special weapons of the same kind and power fist, in a Rhino.<br /> Add to this 2 winged <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DPs</span> and as many Obliterators you can take.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 May 2012 08:36:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>imho</span> i think 5 troops can have its place, if you're going the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSU</span> path to building a super-competitive list. in which case you'd have 5 x 5man squads packing 10x meltas. champs optional, depending if you take 6 or 9 blitz.<br /> <br /> the sorceror seems a bit out of place- consider dropping him for another squad of Obliterators? Are you really planning on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> with the raptors? As there's another 20 points you could trim in icons otherwise.<br /> <br />  also suggest dropping the combi weapon on the plague champ. The guy is about 63 pts as it is, and you've got 2 meltaguns in your squad already.<br /> <br /> just my thoughts - otherwise i rckn it's pretty decent!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 May 2012 10:02:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Haydoss]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Revised 2k CSM Nurgle list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ @Mizzri - Definitely what I was going for. A unique, inventive build to take to the tournament. Removing the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squad wouldn't probably be a bad idea. I'll experiment around a little bit.<br /> <br /> @Wuestenfux - I really want to stay away from the dual <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span>, Oblit spam run-of-the-mill internet lists. At the most, I'll use one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> and the Oblits I have. I'm definitely going to try my alternatives listed above(<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> and Chosen) a few times before I decide on my final army. More <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PMs</span> is always a good thing, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>, even though that follows the meta for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> a little too closely for me.<br /> <br /> @Haydoss - Not wanting to spam Oblits at all, at the most I'll have two groups of three, but that's pushing it for me. I'm definitely not DSing my Raptors, as they cannot take advantage of Icons. If I trim the Sorcerer, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> and some of the Icons, I might have enough room for the Chosen and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> as well. <br /> <br /> I plan on having one squad of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DPs</span> starting on the field while the other group will <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span>, so I want to have some Icons present to take advantage of, so they can hit the field without fail.<br /> <br /> Thanks for the comments and ideas, guys.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 May 2012 22:59:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gorandius]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I find the the 5 plague marines an odd number I would take out the chaos space marines and add two more to each squad.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Arm.chair.general]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd drop the Chaos Marine squad and take a squad of Havocs with 4 Lascannons. I know its pricey but 4 Lascannons hurt and your army doesn't have that much firepower from a distance. The Meltaguns have got to get close to be able to really mess people up and I still think Obliterators are overrated for the price you pay for them.<br /> <br /> My 2 cents]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 7 May 2012 08:46:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Reivax26]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Reivax26 wrote:</cite>I'd drop the Chaos Marine squad and take a squad of Havocs with 4 Lascannons. I know its pricey but 4 Lascannons hurt and your army doesn't have that much firepower from a distance. The Meltaguns have got to get close to be able to really mess people up and I still think Obliterators are overrated for the price you pay for them.<br /> <br /> My 2 cents</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Oh wow.  I'd never take 4 lascannon havocs.  That costs almost as much as a land raider, with 2 twinlinked lascannons plus lots more goodies.  Missile or autocannon havocs yes, lascannon?  You can do better with vehicles.  Even a predator annihilator would be a better deal.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 7 May 2012 14:22:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kevlar]]></author>
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