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				<description><![CDATA[ So, I saw that Malduran posted a bat rep that used this list, and I really like the overall theme, but was curious if anyone can offer some suggestions about it. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> like to keep the Lone Wolf w/ Wolf-buddy, its just a cool idea to me otherwise, whatcha got? <br /> Here's the list:<br /> Rune Priest<br /> Wolf Guard Battle Leader: Power Weapon (thinking of a pair of Wolf Claws instead)<br /> <br /> Dreadnought w/ Assault Cannon<br /> Lone Wolf w/ Power Weapon and Fenrisian Wolf<br /> <br /> X9 Grey Hunters w/ Meltagun and Rhino<br /> X5 Grey Hunters w/ Meltagun and Heavy Bolter Razorback<br /> <br /> X4 Long Fangs w/x3 Missle Launchers<br /> Whirlwind<br /> <br /> This came to around 800 odd points. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> be interested in bumping this up to 1000pts.<br /> Thoughts?<br /> <br /> T-]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ just off the top of my head points might not be exact but drop the Whirlwind pick up a drop pod for the dread and add like 1-2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(450);'>LF</span><br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 7 May 2012 18:22:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Do you mean 1-2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(450);'>LF</span>'s in addition to the ones I've already taken? I was thinking of leaving the Whirlwind in as insurance against big ol' Ork mobs and those pesky Guard <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s that hide in cover and include a Master of Ordnance haha<br /> <br /> Anyone else have any thoughts?<br /> Thanks!<br /> T-]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Your Rune Priest is insurance against big ol' Ork mobs, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(416);'>JoTWW</span> will drop a lot of Orks, your average Ork boy doesn't have particularly good initiative.  Also I concur with Bluewulf, a Drop Podded Dreadnaught would hurt a heck of a lot.  If you're really worried about things in cover, a small unit of Thunderwolf Cavalry 3-4 of them, with little to no upgrades, would tear <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> Company Command Squads a new one.  Or you could just squeeze Bjorn into the list.  But that would just be evil <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Space Wolves list, looking for input!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ok, so just for fun then, what would you recommend for about 1000pts while using the Rune Priest,the Lone Wolf w/ wolf friend(wargear on the Lone Wolf is swappable)? I do have a Battle Leader w/ twin Wolf Claws too, as well as the 5 and 9 Grey Hunters and the 4 Long Fangs w/ 3 Missle Launchers.<br /> <br /> Thanks!<br /> T-<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Bjorn sounds interesting, what are some of the better ways to use him?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 8 May 2012 15:40:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Cry of the Wind]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Bjorn with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PC</span> in a point size this small would be devastating.  Unfortunately to make him affordable, you'd probably have to lose one or both of your current <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span>, so caveat emptor on that one.  As far as the units you currently have I think they're solid.  The only thing I would change, would be to make the 9 man Grey Hunter squad a 10 man squad, to give you that extra free special weapons, since they're already in a Rhino and not a Razorback, there's not really any reason not to.  Also, Wolf Claws on the Battle Leader is much better than the standard power weapon, I assume he goes in the Razorback?  I'd replace the Whirlwind with a Vindicator, only a few more points, and that gun is a lot more devastating than the Whirlwind.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 8 May 2012 17:23:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ alienvalentine]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the reply!<br /> So the trick is finding space for:<br /> <br /> Bjorn<br /> Rune Priest<br /> Battle Leader w/Wolf Claws<br /> <br /> Lone Wolf w/ Wolf Friend<br /> <br /> 10 Grey Hunters in a Rhino<br /> 5 Grey Hunters in Razorback<br /> <br /> 4 Long Fangs w/ 3 Missle Launchers<br /> Whirlwind<br /> <br /> The only reason I can't do a Vindicator is that I don't have one haha, so unfortunately that's out for now.<br /> Any other suggestions? I guess I didn't realize Bjorn was so good, I thought I read his entry but apparentloy I missed something...<br /> <br /> Thanks!<br /> -T]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 8 May 2012 18:32:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Cry of the Wind]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Here's what I come up with when I do the math.  Don't take this as the gospel truth, I've been known to make some pretty stupid math errors  <img src="/s/i/a/504660322487159bb25fddaa475847a6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Bjorn w/ Plasma Cannon 270<br /> Rune Priest 100<br /> Wolf Guard Battle Leader w/ Wolf Claws 85<br /> Lone Wolf w/ Power Sword & Fenrisian Wolf 45<br /> 10 Grey Hunters w/ Flamer, Meltagun as bonus, this makes both weapons free! 150, Rhino 35<br /> 5 Grey Hunters w/ Meltagun 70 Razorback 40<br /> 4 Long Fangs w/ 3 Missile Launchers 90<br /> Whirlwind 85<br /> <br /> This leaves you sitting pretty at 970 pts. meaning you've got 30 points to play with.  I'd spend most of it on gear, wolf tooth necklaces for the battle leader and lone wolf maybe?  It could also get you another long fang with missile launcher.  Ti's up to you really.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 8 May 2012 19:52:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ alienvalentine]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ill run the numbers when I get home, but that looks about right! Thanks for the input!<br /> Have you used Bjorn much? What can you tell me about his tabletop uses? <br /> <br /> Thanks!<br /> T-]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 8 May 2012 20:10:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Cry of the Wind]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Bjorn is even more difficult to destroy than a regular Venerable dreadnaught, which is always a plus, but what really makes him dangerous is his high <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span>, which means shots from his plasma cannon rarely scatter off target, allowing you to vaporize pretty much anything he shoots at.  I've only ever been on the receiving end of Bjorn, and I can tell you it's not a pleasant experience.  Use him primarily as a mobile gun platform, until you can get him in an assault. preferably against something that can't puncture AV13 in the assault, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> Tactical squads w/o power fists for example, or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> command squads.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 8 May 2012 22:12:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ alienvalentine]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the info, I'm totally into this list, and can't wait to try it out!<br /> Anyone have anything else to say about Bjorn or the list in general?<br /> <br /> Thanks!<br /> T-]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 9 May 2012 17:47:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Cry of the Wind]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>alienvalentine wrote:</cite>Here's what I come up with when I do the math.  Don't take this as the gospel truth, I've been known to make some pretty stupid math errors  <img src="/s/i/a/504660322487159bb25fddaa475847a6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Bjorn w/ Plasma Cannon 270<br /> Rune Priest 100<br /> Wolf Guard Battle Leader w/ Wolf Claws 85<br /> Lone Wolf w/ Power Sword & Fenrisian Wolf 45<br /> 10 Grey Hunters w/ Flamer, Meltagun, Rhino<br /> 5 Grey Hunters w/ Meltagun, Razorback <br /> 4 Long Fangs w/ 3 Missile Launchers 90<br /> Whirlwind 85<br /> <br /> This leaves you sitting pretty at 970 pts. meaning you've got 30 points to play with.  I'd spend most of it on gear, wolf tooth necklaces for the battle leader and lone wolf maybe?  It could also get you another long fang with missile launcher.  Ti's up to you really.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> This is pretty good with the items you want in it, I'm not a fan of Bjorn but in small games I'm sure he could hold his own. However, I would make 1 little change in the line up using the remaining points.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - 460pts<br /> Bjorn w/ Plasma Cannon 270<br /> Rune Priest w/ Meltabombs 105<br /> Wolf Guard Battle Leader w/ Wolf Claws 85<br /> <br /> ELITES - 45pts<br /> Lone Wolf w/ Power Sword & Fenrisian Wolf 45<br /> <br /> TROOPS - 315pts<br /> 10 Grey Hunters w/ Flamer, Meltagun, Standard,  Rhino 195<br /> 5 Grey Hunters w/ Meltagun, Razorback 120<br /> <br /> HEAVY SUPPORT -  180pts<br /> 4 Long Fangs w/ 3 Missile Launchers 90<br /> 4 Long Fangs w/ 3 Missile Launchers 90<br /> <br /> 1,000pts<br /> <br /> Now I have to ask, where are you putting the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(293);'>RP</span> and the WFBL? I ask, because Rhino's for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> carry 10 and the Lone Wolf can never be accompanied by anyone, via his special rule "Pack of One". Which means, either you're solo foot slogging the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(293);'>RP</span> or the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(392);'>WGBL</span> or you're putting the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(392);'>WGBL</span> in the 5 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(390);'>GH</span>'s in the Razor and then putting the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(293);'>RP</span> in with the Long Fangs.<br /> <br /> If it were me, I'd drop the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(392);'>WGBL</span> and add more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(450);'>LF</span>'s to the existing packs. And put the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(293);'>RP</span> with the 5man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(390);'>GH</span>'s in the Razor.<br /> <br /> Anywho, I wish you the best of luck and lots of fun with your list. <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 9 May 2012 18:12:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Fexor]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for your reply!<br /> <br /> That's a great point about who's going where, maybe it'd be best to drop the 10 Grey Hunters back to 9 so the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(392);'>WGBL</span> or the Rune Priest can ride with them, otherwise whichever wasn't riding with the Grey Hunters in the Rhino would ride with the Grey Hunters in Razorback. The Lone Wolf and friend I figured would run cover to cover and seek a glorious end worthy of remembrance. I can't drop the Whirlwind to add more Long Fangs because I don't have anymore than the initial 4. I know Bjorn looks like a crazy big amount of points to use, but I remember him in 2nd edition, and wanted to throw him in for fun and nostalgias sake haha<br /> <br /> Thanks for the input, anyone else?<br /> T-<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> either that, or the Rune Priest hoofs it while laying down psychic cover fire and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(392);'>WGBL</span> rides with the 5 Grey Hunters in the Razorback, while the Grey Hunters in the Rhino stay at 10 in the squad....]]></description>
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