<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "1500pt Guard"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 1500pt Guard
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Lord Commissar Ralph - 'pace, PW

Techpriest Enginseer Aurelius

Troops
3 penal legion squads

hvy support

9 basilisks with hull hvy flamers

Alternatively, the same regiment got to a warzone commanded by someone competent (much less likely) who gave them some decent protection.

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Captain Winters. MB
Command squad - 4 GL

Troops

3x Veteran squads with 3 melta guns. Tossing up whether to give them lasguns, shotguns, or laspistol/ccw.

Hvy Support

9 Basilisks with hull hvy flamers


In both lists, the objective is the same... 2 troops will go forward to claim objectives, while the 3rd troop and hq stay behind to guard against DS/outflanking units come to wipe out the basilisks.

Either way, I'm looking forward to my opponents face when I rock up to my next game and deploy 9 basilisks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4258393.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4258393.page GMT Re:1500pt Guard http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4258410.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4258410.page GMT 1500pt Guard http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4258420.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4258420.page GMT Re:1500pt Guard http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4259407.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4259407.page GMT Re:1500pt Guard http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4263215.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4263215.page GMT 1500pt Guard
As for the lists, the second one is way, way better than the first. Of course, both of them are going to see you slaughtered against good opponents most times. As mentioned, you're only looking at 3 real shots per turn due to targeting restrictions, and 9 AV12 vehicles aren't THAT difficult to stop, especially when immobilized results become vehicle destroyed. Throw in a weapon destroyed result as being good enough, and a penetrating hit on that AV12 causes the vehicle to become worthless 2/3ds of the time.

Meanwhile, the rest of your list does basically nothing. Objective missions are going to be practically impossible as your opponent only needs to kill, at most, 20 guardsmen to completely shut down any hopes you have of victory.

If you want to do an artillery-heavy list at 1500 points, I'd recommend dropping your basilisk count from 9 to 6 so that you have the points to equip the core of your list properly.


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4263239.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4263239.page GMT 1500pt Guard id be moving ordnance weapons since they cant fire not having lumbering behemoth. and regardless of what i here, a stationary tank is not a dead tank unless you always roll 1's for cover saves..................]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4263295.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4263295.page GMT 1500pt Guard
lordsolarkodiak wrote:i dont know for sure since i dont use squadrons but doesnt imobilized only count if the squadron moves after the damage....cuz i dont think id be moving ordnance weapons since they cant fire not having lumbering behemoth. and regardless of what i here, a stationary tank is not a dead tank unless you always roll 1's for cover saves..................


Immobilized is wrecked no if, ands, or buts. And ordnance can most definately move 6 and fire. Note here that the basilisk has to fire directly to do this.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4264037.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4264037.page GMT Re:1500pt Guard the arty batallion won´t survive long after all, cause it´s in both real and 40k a support unit, not a core one and needs proper protection, which IMO can´t be done with only 3 squads and only 1 hanging back blobbing.
anyway, very nice story .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4264393.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4264393.page GMT 1500pt Guard
Barksdale wrote:
lordsolarkodiak wrote:i dont know for sure since i dont use squadrons but doesnt imobilized only count if the squadron moves after the damage....cuz i dont think id be moving ordnance weapons since they cant fire not having lumbering behemoth. and regardless of what i here, a stationary tank is not a dead tank unless you always roll 1's for cover saves..................


Immobilized is wrecked no if, ands, or buts. And ordnance can most definately move 6 and fire. Note here that the basilisk has to fire directly to do this.


my bad barks, i remember the BRB saying that ordnance required full attention of the crew so they couldnt do anything else....but that is only for firing, you can still move and shoot, the lumbering behemoth just allows you to shoot the ordnance+more weapons. and that imobilized stuff is bs, if the squadron takes an imobilized and stays there it shouldnt be counted as wrecked, unless the others leave it behind. tank turrets can rotate..........that rule needs to change, along with a lot of others lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4267001.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4267001.page GMT 1500pt Guard
lordsolarkodiak wrote:
Barksdale wrote:
lordsolarkodiak wrote:i dont know for sure since i dont use squadrons but doesnt imobilized only count if the squadron moves after the damage....cuz i dont think id be moving ordnance weapons since they cant fire not having lumbering behemoth. and regardless of what i here, a stationary tank is not a dead tank unless you always roll 1's for cover saves..................


Immobilized is wrecked no if, ands, or buts. And ordnance can most definately move 6 and fire. Note here that the basilisk has to fire directly to do this.


my bad barks, i remember the BRB saying that ordnance required full attention of the crew so they couldnt do anything else....but that is only for firing, you can still move and shoot, the lumbering behemoth just allows you to shoot the ordnance+more weapons. and that imobilized stuff is bs, if the squadron takes an imobilized and stays there it shouldnt be counted as wrecked, unless the others leave it behind. tank turrets can rotate..........that rule needs to change, along with a lot of others lol


Agreed, I wanna be rolling out my 9 Leman Russes for battles!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4267280.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/448458/4267280.page GMT