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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey Dakka! This is my 1000 point Necron army. I would love to have some input on how this is effective and ineffective. <br />  <br /> My goal in this build was to have a fast army that works together to take out targets;  both in melee and in shooting.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> <br /> Destroyer Lord W/ War Scythe/ Res Orb / Weave/ Mind Shackle Scarabs<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> <br /> 1x Triarch Stalker<br /> Heavy Gauss Cannon<br /> <br /> 5x Praetorians W/ Void Blades and Particle casters<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> <br /> 5x Immortals W tesla<br /> <br /> 5x Immortals W tesla<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> <br /> 3x Wraiths<br /> 2x Whip coils<br /> 1x Particle caster<br /> <br /> 3x Tomb Blades W/ Nebuloscopes/ Shadowlooms/ Shieldvanes<br /> 2x twin linked gauss blaster<br /> 1x Particle Beamer<br /> <br /> Total: 1000<br /> <br /> My Thoughts:<br /> <br /> I plan on using the TBlades, Preatorians/D-Lord, and Wraiths together to cover the advance of each other while the Stalker advances with the Immortals "marking" targets for twin linked.<br /> I think this is a good balanced list. The Preatorians and Wraiths will go around opening transports like pinatas, while the Tblades with Stalker/ Immortal support can take out hordes or stun vehicles for the melee units. I am not making this a 'Must win" list, but I am enjoying the compatability between units. To me, the idea of a tough machine clawing its way through flesh and metal is neat.....Also I am painting them like tigers, the inlaid model lines will be the stripes and the undersides faded with white, while the backs are orange blended with a hint of gold. All eyes or orbs will be tiger eyes (think of Sauron).<br /> <br /> Thanks again Dakka!<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I can see where you are going with this.  Couple of things spring to mind though.<br /> <br /> First, for a fast army, you haven't given your troops the ability to move around fast.  In particular, the Praetorians are going to need something to get them into the fight quicker.  <br /> <br /> Generally accepted thought is that the Lychguard are better than praetorians because of the extra <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> attack, (but the praetorian models are cooler).  For a 1000pt game, you have a lot of points invested in 5, 1W models.  <br /> <br /> For the same points you could add some more wraiths, which are quicker and tougher to kill.  Also, having only 3 wraiths apparently makes them easier to kill so you may get better effectiveness if you increase their number by a couple.<br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(585);'>Dlord</span> doesn't let you take a royal court, which means you don't have access to Crypteks, but he is apparently awesome with wraiths.  I have found Crypteks important to balance up a list at 1000pts.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>MarkCron wrote:</cite>I can see where you are going with this.  Couple of things spring to mind though.<br /> <br /> First, for a fast army, you haven't given your troops the ability to move around fast.  In particular, the Praetorians are going to need something to get them into the fight quicker.  <br /> <br /> Generally accepted thought is that the Lychguard are better than praetorians because of the extra <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> attack, (but the praetorian models are cooler).  For a 1000pt game, you have a lot of points invested in 5, 1W models.  <br /> <br /> For the same points you could add some more wraiths, which are quicker and tougher to kill.  Also, having only 3 wraiths apparently makes them easier to kill so you may get better effectiveness if you increase their number by a couple.<br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(585);'>Dlord</span> doesn't let you take a royal court, which means you don't have access to Crypteks, but he is apparently awesome with wraiths.  I have found Crypteks important to balance up a list at 1000pts.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Praetorians are jump infantry, no? also with the particle caster/void blade combo it is +1 attack (pistol/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>ccw</span>), so it equals out in comparison - correct me if I am wrong.<br /> <br /> I do agree with using more Wraiths over Praetorians, that point aside.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Wraiths and Preatorians are both jump infantry. My purpose for the Preatorians is to destroy tanks and such. Wraiths <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(264);'>ftw</span>, I know they are much better at assault, but they dont have the entropic strike or resurrection protocols. 200+ pts is a lot true... I could exchange them for 2 annihilation barges or a lord w/ court and some more troops.<br /> <br /> Would putting the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(585);'>DLord</span> with the wraiths, maybe a barge  and another troops be a more reasonable selection?<br /> <br /> or <br />  <br /> How about Lord W/ ResOrb/ Weave/ WScythe/ Scarabs with a Court of 2 Harbinger of desrtuction 2 W/ lance 1 W/ solar pulse and maybe Another Immortal squad if there is room?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ OOOPS  <img src="/s/i/a/504660322487159bb25fddaa475847a6.gif" border="0">  Didn't have my Codex with me.  Apologies.  I should have remembered that because I went into it when I bought the box because I couldn't decide what to build.  In the end I built the lychguard because of the shields (4+) and the chance for the bounce.  <br /> <br /> If you want to pop tanks, Warscythe on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span> is the way to go (in the absence of scarabs <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>imho</span>).  Way faster, tough to kill and you get to pop the tank in the movement phase!!  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> If you put Anrakyr in a barge, you could a) Kill a tank in the movement phase b) disembark Anrakyr and use Mind in the machine to use one of his tanks to shoot another in the shooting phase, c) assault another tank in the assault phase.<br /> <br /> Course, things have to be <i>juuust</i> right for that to work - but when it happens  <img src="/s/i/a/a0063ed0e1a62441a38f6206bd3f5ad7.gif" border="0"> .]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thank you, I havent thought of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span> since I have a destroyer already. With that change I can play with the extra points towards another unit.<br /> <br /> With the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span> W/ Lord, it sounds good on paper, but how would it stack up to reliability? I see it would become a high priority target from the get go. Would extra wraiths or units help?<br /> <br /> On another note, on my kids next b-day, I'm making them a warscythe to beat the pinata.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I personally think that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span> with Lord is essential (providing you have a warscythe, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(626);'>MSS</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(442);'>PS</span>).  Yep, they take fire, but living metal lets you save shaken and stunned, and symbiotic repair means you can deal with an immobilised/destroyed result by taking a wound on the Olord.  <br /> <br /> Add <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> 13 (until you get a pen) plus a 4+ cover save for moving flat out (note you still get to sweep attack in the movement phase!) and you have a unit that is pretty hard to stop.  Even worse for the opponent, once you get the olord out of the barge, you then have a S5T53W model ignoring armor saves running around in your backfield. <br /> <br /> Can you tell I like them?<br /> <br /> Like the pinata idea - make the pinata the shape of a crusader for additional fun! course if was a real warscythe they would only need one hit!! <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> [edit to clean up poor wording!]]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What is the Stalker even doing in this list?<br /> You have barely anything that will benefit from the twin linking bonus it will confer.<br /> I'd take it out and get more Wraiths and Tomb Blades.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 May 2012 09:25:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ @ Mark (My name too, so its like I'm talking in 3rd person) <br /> <br /> Do you sell cars? Because you just sold me a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span> complete with a Decked out OLord! I appreciate the help, I am looking forward to getting these put together and painted.<br /> <br /> As for the Stalker, I intended to use it for the TBlades. With the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span> and OLord I can afford a wraith and another Tblade easy, Maybe put <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(718);'>PB</span> on all of them (yes peanut butter).  And I just love the Stalker model, thinking of doing a Starship Trooper Bug color scheme. (It still fits with the wraith tiger look)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 May 2012 23:11:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Sneaky_Chicken_sal wrote:</cite>@ Mark (My name too, so its like I'm talking in 3rd person) <br /> <br /> Do you sell cars? Because you just sold me a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span> complete with a Decked out OLord! I appreciate the help, I am looking forward to getting these put together and painted.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lols</span>!  Nope, no selling - maybe a change of career needed.  However, I will say - never take 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span> when 2 will do.  <img src="/s/i/a/c614b4720f1b7225b0523f616ac30b2f.gif" border="0">   But that is a story for another list.....<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Sneaky_Chicken_sal wrote:</cite><br /> As for the Stalker, I intended to use it for the TBlades. With the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span> and OLord I can afford a wraith and another Tblade easy, Maybe put <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(718);'>PB</span> on all of them (yes peanut butter).  And I just love the Stalker model, thinking of doing a Starship Trooper Bug color scheme. (It still fits with the wraith tiger look)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Haven't seen that movie in years!<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> You probably know this, but you get an Olord in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span> box so you don't need to buy one separately.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 May 2012 23:28:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>You probably know this, but you get an Olord in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span> box so you don't need to buy one separately. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I didnt know this!  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Thank you again, remember: "Knowledge is half the battle, Extreme violence is the other half."<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Ok, So I changed up the game plan a little bit. I still have my forward moving units while still having proper firing support. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> O-Lord W/ Weave/ Scarabs/ phase shifter<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span> Dedicated transport<br /> <br /> Court:<br /> 2x Cryptek- Storm W/V-Staff<br /> 1x Lightning Field<br /> 1x Ether crystal<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> <br /> 1x Stalker<br /> Heavy Gauss Cannon<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 3 units of  5x Immortals W tesla<br /> <br /> Fast Attack<br /> 3x Wraiths<br /> 2x Whip coils<br /> <br /> 4x Tomb Blades<br /> 3x W/ Nebuloscopes/ Shadow Loom/ Shield Vanes<br /> 1x W/ Shadow Loom/ Shield Vanes<br /> 4x Particle Beamer<br /> <br /> Cost:<br /> 1000<br /> <br /> <br /> I added a couple Cryptek courts to add a bubble wrap to the stalker who will be adding fire targeting for the TBlades. Since many armies deepstrike/ flank quickly, I figured having a rear assault cushion (insert giggle) would be wise. As most necron players put emphasis on the Wraiths, mine can be a great tarpitter while my TBlades lay down focused fire. <br /> <br /> Thoughts?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Failing knowledge, try excessive extreme violence.<br /> <br /> Re the revised list, having only 3 wraiths may cause you problems.  General knowledge (and I'm not an expert because I don't have any....yet) says you need 5.  However, suggest you try and see what happens.  If it doesn't work out, swap to scarabs.<br /> <br /> Re the crypteks, I haven't found that the ether crystal is that useful.  Suggest you swap 1 for a HoDespair instead, because the abyssal staff is a nice deterrent when the opponent gets close (particularly if you <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> it with the stalker).  You could then add the Veil of Darkness - but not sure spending the points on the veil fits with your list (don't see a huge amount of point veiling 5 immortals around).<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok, Tek W/ Abyssal staff mucho better. I will let you guys know if the 3 wraith is enough. <br /> <br /> Thanks Again!<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Ok Got it, I realized I missed the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span> in my list. here is the final result for my starter necron 1000 pt list.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> O-Lord W/ Scarabs/ phase shifter/ Weave/  WarScythe<br /> <br /> Court:<br /> 2x Cryptek<br /> 1x Storm W/V-Staff/Lightning Field<br /> 1x Despair W/ Abyssal staff<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> 1x Stalker<br /> Heavy Gauss Cannon<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 2-5x Immortals W tesla<br /> <br /> Fast Attack<br /> 3x Wraiths<br /> 2x Whip coils<br /> <br /> 4x Tomb Blades<br /> 4x W/ Nebuloscopes/ Shadow Loom/ Shield Vanes<br /> 4x Particle Beamer<br /> <br /> Dedicated transport<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(547);'>CCB</span><br /> <br /> Cost:<br /> 1000<br /> <br /> Now I just need to learn to play. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 3 Wraiths?<br /> Sir, I do hope you realize any Wraith unit with less than 5 models in it has a nasty tendency to not survive two turns.<br /> (it's almost wasted points... I'd either bump them up or drop them completely (maybe replace with Destroyers, as they will benefit from the twin-linking the Stalker will confer).)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>4x Tomb Blades <br /> 4x W/ Nebuloscopes/ Shadow Loom/ Shield Vanes <br /> 4x Particle Beamer </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> One more thing,<br /> <br /> Is this too much overkill with the stalkers Targeting array? <br />  <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>3 Wraiths?<br /> Sir, I do hope you realize any Wraith unit with less than 5 models in it has a nasty tendency to not survive two turns.<br /> (it's almost wasted points... I'd either bump them up or drop them completely (maybe replace with Destroyers, as they will benefit from the twin-linking the Stalker will confer).)<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I dont intend them to be my heavy hitter, the TBlades will be putting down wounds left and right. I plan on using the wraiths as a speed bump from hell. And since the Stalker add twin-linked to the shots, I can reroll scatters not to my liking on units. With the TBlades its go for broke or go home (maybe go home broke), I Love them.<br /> <br /> As for Destroyers, I don't think 6 s5 ap3 shots would be a really good switch for a 9 s6 rending attacks that stall and mutilate a unit. They are twink-linked though, and can eat up <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> each turn.<br /> <br /> Decisions, decisions...]]></description>
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