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				<title>Ranged demons list, 1750</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ My experiment with demons, this is intended to be a ranged army (as the title says) but I have a feeling this list is lacking.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Fateweever - 333<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> Flamers of Tzeentch- 170<br /> 	-4 flamers<br /> 	-bolt of tzeentch<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> <br /> Pink Horrors 1- 185<br /> -	10 horrors<br /> -	One with bolt<br /> -	Changeling<br /> Pink Horrors 2- 180<br /> -10 Horrors<br /> 	-one with bolt<br /> 	-chaos icon<br /> Pink Horrors 3- 180<br /> 	-10 horrors<br /> 	-one with bolt<br /> 	-chaos icon<br /> Pink Horrors 4- 180<br /> 	-10 horrors<br /> 	-one with bolt<br /> Plague Bearers- 90<br /> 	-6 plague bearers<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> <br /> Screamers of Tzeentch- 48<br /> 	-3 screamers<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> <br /> Demon Prince- 190<br /> 	-Mark of Tzeentch<br /> 	-Demonic Gaze<br /> 	-Bolt of Tzeentch<br /> 	-iron hide<br /> <br /> Demon Prince- 190<br /> 	-Mark of Tzeentch<br /> 	-Demonic Gaze<br /> 	-Bolt of Tzeentch<br /> 	-iron hide<br /> <br /> <br /> So, the horrors are an obvious choice in a ranged list.  The demon princes are decked out to be firing platforms.  Fateweaver is there for durability mostly.  The plague bearers are there mainly because I can't think of something better and I figured they can be used for objective holding.  The flamers are there for additional fire support and for the breathing on people that get too close.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd bump the Plaguebearers up to 10, if they're gonna camp might as well bring a bigger crew of em.<br /> <br /> I know some people don't like soulgrinders, but maybe consider one?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 May 2012 21:01:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Ranged demons list, 1750</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Needs some counter assault I reckon... And heralds of tzeentch. Maybe kit up the princes to punch face after they pop transports?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 May 2012 21:24:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zid]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Ranged demons list, 1750</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ How about:<br /> <br /> Herald of Tzeentch on chariot w/bolt, breath, master of sorcery<br /> <br /> Herald of Tzeentch on chariot w/bolt, breath, master of sorcery<br /> <br /> Herald of Tzeentch on chariot w/bolt, breath, master of sorcery<br /> <br /> 3x Flamers<br /> <br /> 3x Flamers<br /> <br /> 3x Flamers<br /> <br /> 6x Horrors w/bolt, Changling, icon<br /> <br /> 6x Horrors w/bolt, icon<br /> <br /> 6x Horrors w/bolt<br /> <br /> 6x Horrors w/bolt<br /> <br /> 6x Horrors w/bolt<br /> <br /> 6x Horrors w/bolt<br /> <br /> Demon Prince w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, bolt<br /> <br /> Demon Prince w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, bolt<br /> <br /> Demon Prince w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, bolt<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 May 2012 21:34:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ helium42]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That's a very scary list above. My suggestion would be something like it, only shuffling around to get Gaze on the Princes. They get to fire two weapons being <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span> and have your highest <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> so you may as well get them shooting more. The only question is where you get those points. Personally I'd swap in the Breath on the Heralds, they've already got two ranged attacks without it and can use their jetbike status to kite things rather than charging in to use a template.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 May 2012 22:14:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sleepysloth]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The new list is excellent.<br /> <br /> But on the old list:<br /> Drop the plague bearers, and screamers in favour for more horrors. You dont need <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(449);'>PBs</span> to camp when you have 5 ranged scoring units with 4++ invulns and fateweaver. And with all of your massed Bolt firing and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span>, screamers aren't needed.<br /> I think you have added up the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DPs</span> points wrong? 80 for the prince, 30 for hide, 25 for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, 25 for bolt, 20 for Gaze. Comes to 180, not 190.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 May 2012 06:54:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zambro]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Ranged demons list, 1750</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>helium42 wrote:</cite>How about:<br /> <br /> Herald of Tzeentch on chariot w/bolt, breath, master of sorcery<br /> <br /> Herald of Tzeentch on chariot w/bolt, breath, master of sorcery<br /> <br /> Herald of Tzeentch on chariot w/bolt, breath, master of sorcery<br /> <br /> 3x Flamers<br /> <br /> 3x Flamers<br /> <br /> 3x Flamers<br /> <br /> 6x Horrors w/bolt, Changling, icon<br /> <br /> 6x Horrors w/bolt, icon<br /> <br /> 6x Horrors w/bolt<br /> <br /> 6x Horrors w/bolt<br /> <br /> 6x Horrors w/bolt<br /> <br /> 6x Horrors w/bolt<br /> <br /> Demon Prince w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, bolt<br /> <br /> Demon Prince w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, bolt<br /> <br /> Demon Prince w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, bolt<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Much better!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 May 2012 14:05:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zid]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Ranged demons list, 1750</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ have the squad with the most horrors have the changeling so they will shoot at it and have the highest chance to shoot other people <br /> <br /> on heralds you don't need breath because you have flamers  so scrap breath and give princes either more survivablity or more shooty stuff (prefer shooty) <br /> <br /> i would combine the squads so you would have 18 9 and 9 horrors (18 haveing the changeling) but that's just me i would also have 2 flamers for more upgrades but again that's just me ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 May 2012 14:16:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks, that list looks a lot better.  Though I am going to scrap breadth on the flamers and give something to the princes (probably gaze to utilize the firing of 2 weapons per turn).<br /> <br /> Edit:<br /> Thanks for the feedback &lt;3<br /> <br /> edit:<br /> <br /> so I came up with this.  Unless I did the math wrong, it comes out to 1697pts so I still have stuff to throw in, any recomendations?<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Herald of Tzeentch-100<br /> 	-chariot<br /> 	-bolt of tzeentch<br /> 	-mastery of sorcery<br /> <br /> Herald of Tzeentch-100<br /> 	-chariot<br /> 	-bolt of tzeentch<br /> -mastery of sorcery<br /> <br /> Herald of Tzeentch-100<br /> 	-chariot<br /> 	-bolt of tzeentch<br /> 	-mastery of sorcery<br /> <br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> Flamers of Tzeentch- 105<br /> 	-3 flamers<br /> <br /> Flamers of Tzeentch- 105<br /> 	-3 flamers<br /> <br /> Flamers of Tzeentch- 105<br /> 	-3 flamers<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> <br /> Pink Horrors- 112<br /> 	-6 horrors<br /> 	-bolt<br /> 	-changling<br /> <br /> Pink Horrors- 117<br /> 	-6 horrors<br /> 	-bolt<br /> 	-chaos icon<br /> <br /> Pink Horrors- 137<br /> 	-6 horrors<br /> 	-bolt<br /> <br /> Pink Horrors- 112<br /> 	-6 horrors<br /> 	-bolt<br /> <br /> <br /> Pink Horrors- 112<br /> 	-6 horrors<br /> 	-bolt<br /> <br /> Pink Horrors- 112<br /> 	-6 horrors<br /> 	-bolt<br /> <br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> <br /> Demon Prince- 190<br /> 	-Mark of Tzeentch<br /> 	-Demonic Gaze<br /> 	-Bolt of Tzeentch<br /> 	-iron hide<br /> <br /> Demon Prince- 190<br /> 	-Mark of Tzeentch<br /> 	-Demonic Gaze<br /> 	-Bolt of Tzeentch<br /> 	-iron hide<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 May 2012 12:33:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>jbsnv wrote:</cite>have the squad with the most horrors have the changeling so they will shoot at it and have the highest chance to shoot other people </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Check your codex again. The Changeling's squad does not have to be shot at. It only has to be in range to affect that squad. I made the same mistake until it was pointed out to me.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 May 2012 12:45:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What is the best way to divide this army for deployment?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 May 2012 21:53:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Prefered wave should look like; 3x heralds, 2 princes and 1 horror squad with icon.<br /> <br /> That gives you 6 bolts. 2 @ BS5, 3 @ BS4, 1 @ BS3. And an icon so you can land successfully with the rest of your army.<br /> <br /> If you swap out your heralds, you can afford Fateweaver, he is a huge bonus to your survivability.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 May 2012 10:12:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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