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				<description><![CDATA[ Okay, this isn't my normal competetive list....instead it's what I have and trying for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(150);'>WYSIWYG</span>....though I CAN proxy if I must.  <br /> <br /> <br /> 280 - Tyrant w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(444);'>HC</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(443);'>HVC</span> and 1 Tyrant Guard<br /> <br /> 105 - Tyranid Prime w/Deathspitter, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(495);'>LW</span> & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(160);'>AG</span><br /> <br /> 130 - 2 Lictors<br /> <br /> 145 - Doom of Malantai, mycetic spore w/barbed strangler<br /> <br /> 235 - 5 x warriors, Deathspitters, 1 barbed strangler<br /> <br /> 175 - 12 devilgaunts in mycetic spore w/barbed strangler<br /> <br /> 174 - 8 Genestealers w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>, Broodlord upgrade w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(171);'>ST</span><br /> <br /> 174 - 8 Genestealers w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>, Broodlord upgrade w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(171);'>ST</span><br /> <br /> 175 - Carnifex w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(160);'>AG</span>, FS<br /> 195 - Carnifex w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(160);'>AG</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(443);'>HVC</span><br /> <br /> 210 - Trygon w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(160);'>AG</span><br /> <br /> 1998 points.  Not the most competitive, but how will it do and what are it's weaknesses?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 May 2012 12:33:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The biggest weakness with the list right now is how you will pop transports at range. venom cannons are not good at this. The best ranged transport killers are hive guard. They blow up a couple and the Doom kills the guys that fall out. <br /> <br /> The other option could be since you seem to be setting up a reserve list is to work with that more. Drop the warriors and a carnie, add a spore for the other carnie and give him some shorter ranged guns with blast and/or template. Add zoanthropes in a spore. <br /> <br /> Good luck<br /> <br /> The Wraith]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 May 2012 12:56:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm not fond of Hvy venom cannons, it's just what I have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span>.  I intend to buy a tyrant box, assemble a swarmlord, and have the gun arms to swap out on the metal tyrant.<br /> <br /> I like zoanthropes, but only have one model(hence using the Doom) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span>.  Hive guard I may be converting from warriors.<br /> <br /> Though I have non-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> that I can proxy, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> I have:<br /> aprox another 25 stealers<br /> 20-25 termagants<br /> Another 5 warriors.<br /> <br /> That's about it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 May 2012 14:52:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I might actually try dropping the Trygon and load up on more spores. Maybe add BioPlasma to the Carnies and a Thorax weapon on the Tyrant. 'Nids don't have many template weapons so it is always nice when you can take one. Left over points increase guants or stealers.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 May 2012 20:31:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That's something to consider.  I like bio plasma, just didn't have the points.  I'd like another 80 for 8 more devilgaunts as well....but need the minis too, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> I'm surprised that no one has said to drop the Lictors.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 May 2012 06:03:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Brother Taurinus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Come to think of it, I paid for the Warrior's group to have a spore with a barbed strangler, so they've got one.<br /> <br /> Anyone have any more comments about Spore lists?  Suggestions?  I may have to model some devourer arms so I can have a dakkafex.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 May 2012 18:23:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Brother Taurinus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I really like spores, I tend to drop 12 devourergants from them. I've got a couple of battle reports using them against a very competitive <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> list. This is the better of them. I've used essentially the same list 5 times, and the opponents have surrendered on turn 3 in all but 1, which was done on turn 4 (this video, actually) <br /> <br /> <iframe type="text/html" width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ypfy9FMrO_I?autoplay=0&origin=http://www.dakkadakka.com&fs=1" frameborder="0"></iframe><br/>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 May 2012 20:05:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mysticdog]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Bugger...on my cheap old phone right now and can't see the vid.  <br /> <br /> So you're happy with 12 devilgaunts?  Using mathhammer, 20 will kill 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span>'s.....which to me is rather something.<br /> <br /> I've been putting weapons on the spores....stranglers more importantly because I figure it's a stationary <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> that isn't going to be able to do anything......but a low cost <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(389);'>BC</span> and suddenly it's throwing pie out to 36"....I'm hoping to pin a unit or two, either for assaults, or to keep 'em down to be shot at.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 May 2012 23:51:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Brother Taurinus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Brother Taurinus wrote:</cite><br /> Anyone have any more comments about Spore lists?  Suggestions? </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/449539.page" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/449539.page</a><br /> <br /> I run 8 spores, and it works really well. I can concentrate a silly amount of firepower on a small part of my opponents army. <br /> <br /> Hive Tyrant – Hive Commander, Wings, 2x Twin-linked Devourer<br /> <br /> 2 Zoanthropes with Spore<br /> 2 Zoanthropes with Spore<br /> Doom of Malaysia with Spore<br /> <br /> 10 Devilgants with Spore<br /> 10 Devilgants with Spore<br /> 5 Genestealers plus Broodlord with Scything Talons<br /> 5 Genestealers plus Broodlord with Scything Talons<br /> <br /> Dakkafex with Spore with Twin-linked Deathspitter<br /> Dakkafex with Spore with Twin-linked Deathspitter<br /> Dakkafex with Spore with Twin-linked Deathspitter<br /> <br /> 1999 points<br /> 19 kill points<br /> <br /> Genestealers outflank, Flyrant comes in preferably from my own table edge to avoid mishaps. He can charge 18" or cover 30" with dakka. I feel the list has a good chance against most armies out there, unless the mission is pure kill points (which no tournament plays around here).<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 May 2012 11:35:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ N.I.B.]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Lictors are pretty redundant in this list. Lets say nothing derp strikes until turn 2, the Lictors ability doesn't work until turn 3 anyway, which would make reserve a 2+. If you start the Hive Tyrant on the board then it will be a 3+ turn 2 and then 2+ on turn 3 anyway.<br /> <br /> I think you will have problems with anti tank. Zoanthropes would suit a deep striking list as would maybe a Mawloc (I am not a fan of these) as the S6 template would catch vehicles.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>TBH</span> I like N.I.B's list. Not keen on the amount of Genestealers though, better to have more 'Stealers than a Broodlord. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 May 2012 14:41:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mercer]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've tried both 2x10 nekkid Stealers and 2x5 + Broodlords, and I will definately keep the current setup. The Broodlords adds another layer of tactical depth with their anti-character power (Gazed Draigo the other day) and resilience, in spite of being 2 wounds less. I7 and S5 also helps out a bit in some situations.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 May 2012 19:10:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ N.I.B.]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My problem with dropping 20 gants out of the spore is that it can become problematic finding room for them if the spore ends up next to an enemy unit or spore. 36 shots is on average only 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span>'s, but killing 4 or 5 is still fairly probable (as is killing fewer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>). With 18" range, I can always focus two groups to get 6 kills, and I can fire on damaged units (such as whatever the spore hurt) and clean up without wasting all those extra shots.<br /> <br /> But, there is nothing wrong with 20 <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> More Dakka!<br /> <br /> I put venom canons on the spores, in case the closest unit happens to be a vehicle. 6 strength has some chance of hurting many vehicles, and keeps the spore a threat even to heavily mechanized armies. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> would be a better pick if I knew my opponent was very light in vehicles.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Wait, do the spores count as Kill Points? The rules say they are non-scoring.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 May 2012 22:36:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, spores are kill points. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 23 May 2012 13:54:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mercer]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Okay, I'm going to field the Lictors once, just to try them out.  After that it looks like I'll be spending their points on:<br /> <br /> a)  Dropping a stealer from both units and adding a third<br /> <br /> b)  2 Hive Guard and bio-plasma for a carnifex<br /> <br /> c)  Other option?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 May 2012 09:13:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Brother Taurinus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Brother Taurinus wrote:</cite>Okay, I'm going to field the Lictors once, just to try them out.  After that it looks like I'll be spending their points on:</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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