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				<description><![CDATA[ So I have been toying around with a no bike list with Khan.  This is what I have come up with.  It is a semi resemblence to a deathwing list.  That is what i normally play, just wanted to try something different.  It is supposed to be semi competitive, but I don't play in tournaments.<br /> <br /> So here it is.<br /> <br /> Khan<br /> Libby: Terminator, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, Avenger and Null Zone<br /> <br /> Assault Terminators (Khan here to Outflank)<br /> 4x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>'s<br /> 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> -Sgt <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> -Crusader: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span><br /> <br /> Assault Terms (Libby here)<br /> 4x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> -Sgt: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad: Plasma Cannon, Meltagun<br /> -Sgt: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, Combi Melta<br /> -Rhino<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad: Plasma Cannon, Meltagun<br /> -Sgt: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, Combi Melta<br /> -Rhino<br /> <br /> Land Speeder: Typhoon, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span><br /> Land Speeder: Typhoon, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span><br /> <br /> Land Raider: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> (Libby and terms go here)<br /> <br /> I have won a couple of games, but lost to a blob guard army.  So many ones were rolled on my part for termie saves.  What do you think of it? Its a very elite type army but its a blast to play with.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What are the benefits of khan again? The unit he is with outflanks and bikes become troops?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He gives furious charge and hit and run to the squad he joins.  Its mostly for the outflank and furious for the terms that I take him.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 May 2012 20:55:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ would you be better off with either Shrike to replace khan (lose <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span> but gain army wide fleet) or use the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> dex?<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 May 2012 20:58:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Shrike and Khan would be very nasty.<br /> <br /> Give all of your terminators fleet. Khan would give those termies furious charge, so you have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 9 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>THs</span>? Yikes!<br /> <br /> Or, infiltrate Shrike with assault marines and khan on a bike. Khan's bike is allowed to run in the shooting phase if I recall (and, if he can run, he can fleet, can he not?), so now you have that assaulting your opponent on turn 1. I am not sure how great it would work, but it would be fun to try out at least.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 May 2012 21:01:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Green is Best!]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The idea is about flanking with the landraider and Terms, so Shrike doesn't do anything for me.  The others terms are in the other Land Raider, so they don't need fleet either( or shouldn't <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 May 2012 21:04:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ land raider pivots gaining 1.5 inches + 12 inch move in land raider + disembark 2 inches + run <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>d6</span> inches + charge 6 inches.  = 22.5 - 27.5 inch threat range with Shrike included in the army]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 May 2012 21:22:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I am honestly not a fan of Shrike.  This isn't really a rapid response force.  So fleet really isn't important to me.  <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 May 2012 03:47:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ haveyou considered switching 1 of the land raiders to a redeemer. i did it in a khan list a few times last year and outflanking redeemers are a terror to behold]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 May 2012 04:05:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well I don't own one of those.  But I might have to try them out.  I have seen them use a couple of times.  They didn't do much but I am interested in them a bit.  <br /> <br /> With them outflanking they could be nice.  Thanks!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 May 2012 04:25:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ np, i love seeing khan lists, i don't think he gets nearly enough love. let me see if i can dig up that list to show you, but from memory it was 2 redeemers, khan, 2 termie assault squads, 2 las/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> 'backs, a librarian, and i don't remember what else, but from my experience, khan can be quite the game changer.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 May 2012 04:51:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Might be worth it to possibly take Tigurius to let you re-roll reserves]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 May 2012 05:06:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ tigurius is grossly over priced alone and especially in this list which is tight for points as is.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 May 2012 13:59:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I have to agree on Tigurius. 200+ points, 2 wounds, no invul. That is a lot of points just for re-rolling reserves and access to all psychic powers.<br /> <br /> As for the redeemer option, I bought one solely to run with my White Scars and Khan. It is ok against orks as most things (i.e. crusader hurricane bolters) kill them without a save. However, when it rolled up on a squad of Khorne berserkers in cover, it was a glorious sight. Don't forget it still has an assault cannon and the option for the multi-melta. So, you are still dealing out some firepower. Plus, if you are outflanking it, there is a really good chance you are already up in your opponent's face where the flamestorm cannon does its work. Needless to say, I am completely sold on the Redeemer.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Khan with no Bikes..</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Your heavy support <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> cannot outflank.    Only dedicated transports can -- or units with combat tactics.<br /> <br /> Just a heads up.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 May 2012 14:16:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Right. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span> would be dedicated transport for Assault Termies.<br /> <br /> Codex also reads one squad of termies may take <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> and one squad of assault termies may take <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>. So, you could theoretically have two outflanking Landraiders.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 May 2012 14:25:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Khan with no Bikes..</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>labmouse42 wrote:</cite>Your heavy support <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> cannot outflank.    Only dedicated transports can -- or units with combat tactics.<br /> <br /> Just a heads up.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yes I am aware.  I only outflank with the crusader squad.  The other one is there for fire support first couple turns while moving up.  <br /> <br /> I will have to proxy the redemmer and see how it does for me.  Like I said I haven't seen it really do much, of course there is only one at my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(211);'>LGS</span>.  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Tigirius is not really and option.  The reasons have been given. :p<br /> <br />  ]]></description>
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