<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "1850 Grey knight henchman army"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 1850 Grey knight henchman army
Hq
Cotez
100pts

Ordo Xenos Inq
-rad gernades
-Pysch gernades
-Force weapon, pysker lvl 1
-power armour
-digital weapons
98pts

Troops
7 Deathcult assassins
4 Crusadors
-Chimera
-multi laser
-flamer
220pts
x3

Now here is where im not sure on wheter to give them plasmas or meltas

2 Jokera weaponsmith
10 Warrior Aco
-plasma
-plasma
-plasma
-7 Storm bolters
-Chimera
-multi laser
-heavybolter
217pts
x2

12 Warrior Aco
-melta
-melta
-melta
-9 Storm bolters
-Chimera
-Multi laser
-Heavybolter
155pts

Elite

Techmarine
- rad gernades
-psy gernades
-blind gernades
-nemis sword
-melta bombs
130pts

Heavy support

Dreadnought
Tl Autcannonx2
Psybolt ammo

135pts
x2

1850pts

So ive never ran henchman picked out units i felt were gonna be good deathcult assassins look like beast in close combat and warrior accolyetes are super cheap, im not sure which is better the meltas or plasmas the problem with the metlas is the range and the monkeys are heavy so if you move you cant shoot so im not sure. Each Hq and a Tech marine will go in with each unit of DeathCults.

Thanks in advance for advise


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285506.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285506.page GMT 1850 Grey knight henchman army CC, and function as a good suicide unit, that normally make up their points. Are you going for competitive, really competitive, or just a friendly army?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285521.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285521.page GMT Re:1850 Grey knight henchman army IG for Warrior Aco, And i have and idea for the deathcults and crusadors, the Warrior Accolyetes seem that they would take the best advantage of the chimeras since they have 5 shooting ports there super cheap i mean 4 points is awsome 7pts with stormbolters is still great.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285526.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285526.page GMT 1850 Grey knight henchman army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285535.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285535.page GMT Re:1850 Grey knight henchman army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285540.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285540.page GMT 1850 Grey knight henchman army Other than that, pretty nice list.

-Wolf Guard 252]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285596.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285596.page GMT 1850 Grey knight henchman army DCA to kill stuff, and they are I1 assaulting into cover, only have a 14" assault range from a stationary chimera, and their rides do not have fortitude so can be stunned/shaked/immobilised easily leaving them out of range: DCA are normally either listed in storm ravens when played for the take-it-to-the-enemy-assault or in small groups in a razorback/rhino for counterassault. Furthermore, imho 3 BS3 meltagun acolytes are not reliable at all - two units would be better: you are short on anti-high-AV. Finally, given how squishy the henchmen are, everything except for the jokaero operates at short-mid range so you (i) have to get dangerously close to be effective (ii) probably can't be effective for the first few turns.

Having said that it looks fun, and take what I say with a pinch of salt because although I play henchmen I'm not a tournament player with a tonne of experience. Proxy a few games if I were you.

PS. DCA are better than Arcos in most circumstances due to their high I and power attacks. (Arcos might be good with a Hammerhand IC joined to them as then they have the fair option of assaulting vehicles.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285879.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4285879.page GMT Re:1850 Grey knight henchman army

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also its not just the dca killing stuff Wa are pretty good considering the cost of the unit if within range where talking about 46 storm bolter shots 6 plasma 3 melta and not to mention the monkeys who are las and meltas, so they can actually throw out alot of shots. I am leaning towards Removing 2 monkeys and making another melta group.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4287066.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4287066.page GMT Re:1850 Grey knight henchman army
Mrstealthrttt wrote:46 storm bolter shots


Only if they expose themselves by getting out of their ride.

This is the trouble with stormbolter acolytes - they're excellent in cost but difficult to use in numbers. I wonder whether multiple chimeras each with 5 stormbolter acolytes inside might be good, for 90 pts each, kiting their targets with 1.5 multilaser hits and 5 stormbolter hits per turn, but that just isn't very exciting, especially when you think of the lack of fortitude and the possibility of plasma guns. If only henchmen squads could be decently large numbers to allow foot slogging!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4287412.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4287412.page GMT 1850 Grey knight henchman army AP 5 might be useful to me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4289583.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4289583.page GMT Re:1850 Grey knight henchman army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4291481.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4291481.page GMT 1850 Grey knight henchman army
5 acolytes w / storm bolters
Chimera

This costs 90 pts base before upgrading the chimera, and with the concept of saving pts, could effectively put more units out, with chimera spam, you need as many av 12 fronts out there as you can afford. You have 5 firing points, to put more than 5 shooters in a squad is a waste of firing opportunity you have from the chimera's imho.

To tweak ur list... it would be easy to find an additional 90 pts to afford another chimera with 5 henchmen at the bare minimum by cutting each group down to 5 men squads. Take out the storm bolters that bring ur cap over 5 shooters, if you want survivability put in bare acolytes... they aren't horrible in melee (standard guard sargeants essentially for 4 points a pop) and easy dispensable points.

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You also need to think about leaving some more space in your henchmen squads for your independant characters to join the units.

Some of your units could potentially run away at LD 8 and not be able to regroup after suffering a few casualties considering the squishiness the henchmen are.

Your unit of assassins and crusaders would be the main target so i'd suggest using a Land Raider variant, stormraven or you could potentially walk them to provide a counter attack that way but that may prove difficult.

If you wanna be more competitive I would use rhino's instead of chimeras, smaller units for those without an attached independant character.

IMO henchmen/grey knight hybrid lists are stronger.
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HQ
Draigo
Cotez
375pts

Troops
10 Pallidans
-4 pyscannons
-4 swords
-4 halberds
-2 hammer
-5 MC
-Pysbolt ammo
-Apothocary
All different gear
750pts

3 Warrior Accolytet
-melta
-melta
-melta
-Rhino
-Hunter missile
-searchlight
93pts

3 Warrior Accolytet
-melta
-melta
-melta
-Rhino
-Hunter missile
-searchlight
93pts

3 Warrior Accolytet
-melta
-melta
-melta
-Rhino
-Hunter missile
-searchlight
93pts

3 Warrior Accolytet
-melta
-melta
-melta
-Rhino
-Hunter missile
-searchlight
93pts

3 Warrior Accolytet
-melta
-melta
-melta
-Rhino
82pts


Heavy Support

Dreadnoguht
autocannon Tlx2
psybolt
-searchlight
136pts

Dreadnoguht
autocannon Tlx2
psybolt
-searchlight
136pts

This leave me 63 pts left over i can either do a few this give all WA carpace armour, or lose a hunter missle and give the paladians Feel no pain.




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Meltagun acolytes work well with the cruise/disembark/shoot method, so their effective melta range is 12"+2"+6" = 20". As they probably have to use this method to be effective, they are suicide units, but can be placed into psybacks. So swop rhinos for psybacks and you now have an additional 15 TL-BS4 S6 shots out to 6"+36" = 42". This is why people hate GK ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4298334.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4298334.page GMT 1850 Grey knight henchman army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4298369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4298369.page GMT Re:1850 Grey knight henchman army HQ
Draigo
Cotez
375pts

Troops
10 Pallidans
-4 pyscannons
-4 swords
-4 halberds
-2 hammer
-5 MC
-Pysbolt ammo
-Apothocary
All different gear
750pts

3 Warrior Accolytet
-melta
-melta
-melta
-Razor back
-assault cannon
-pysbolt ammo
127pts

3 Warrior Accolytet
-melta
-melta
-melta
-Razor back
-assault cannon
-pysbolt ammo
127pts

3 Warrior Accolytet
-melta
-melta
-melta
-Razor back
-assault cannon
-pysbolt ammo
127pts

3 Warrior Accolytet
-melta
-melta
-Rhino
72pts

Heavy Support

Dreadnoguht
autocannon Tlx2
psybolt
-searchlight
136pts

Dreadnoguht
autocannon Tlx2
psybolt
-searchlight
136pts

That is 1850 That gives me 16 strength 7 psybolt, 12- tL strength 7 assault cannon shots, 8- TL strength 8 auto cannon shots,11 Strength 8 melta shots. Seems like a decent ammout of high strength guys, The Paladins with smash the faces of anything in Cc.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4300552.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/449893/4300552.page GMT