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Sammael w/ Landspeeder

Elite
x2 Techmarine TL-Las razorback

Troops
x3 5man tac squad w/ meltagun, plasma pistol, power weapon

x3 3man Ravenwing Attack squads w/ 2 meltas, attack bike w/ MM

Fast Attack
x3 Typhoon speeders w/ MM

Heavy Support
x2 Preds w/ side-sponson HB

The idea is to use the rhinos and razorbacks as screens for the bikes. The plasma pistol for the sarge is there to take advantage of the second firing point on a rhino. I know for a marine list this is kinda squishy but I'm hoping vehicle saturation will help. Any thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4288613.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4288613.page GMT
Looks pretty interesting though. Would be nice if you could get the tacs in R-Backs too. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4289944.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4289944.page GMT tac squads, I can upgrade al the bike meltas to plasmaguns. That would also give me the points for an RW apothecary too. I'm not sure about the razorbacks, I'd have to drop a tac squad to get the points. Also, since DA are limited to only TL-Las and TL-HB razorbacks, I would just get expensive vehicles with weapons that are likely to be rendered useless early, and no fire points to fire the melta out of.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4290085.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4290085.page GMT lol

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Sammael w/ Landspeeder

Elite
x2 Vet squads w/ PG, MM, p-fist in rhinos

Troops
x3 5man tac squad w/ meltagun, p-fists in lasbacks

x2 3man Ravenwing Attack squads w/ 2 meltas, attack bike w/ MM

Fast Attack
x3 Typhoon speeders w/ MM

Heavy Support
x2 Preds w/ side-sponson HB

This list adds significantly more bodies with a lot of AP1 and 2 death.I have 15 points left over, not sure where to spend them. Also, I'm thinking about taking it to a tournament next month. Any thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4294639.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4294639.page GMT AP weapons.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4296036.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4296036.page GMT tac squads in lasbacks to 2 tac squads in lasbacks and 2 in razorbacks. Not sure if that's a good idea or not though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4296050.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4296050.page GMT Tac squads to fill?

If you want them to hunt Tanks then Keeping the P-fists are probably a good idea. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4296068.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4296068.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4296100.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4296100.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4296104.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4296104.page GMT MM off of the Vets and beef them up a bit. I don't really see the MM helping out that much really. Could take a combi, even though they are a bit much in the DA dex. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4296116.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4296116.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4297045.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4297045.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4298028.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4298028.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4298292.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4298292.page GMT
Thats silly enough to work.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4298981.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4298981.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4299135.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4299135.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4299301.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4299301.page GMT PW/SS is 250pts, more if you take a transport. How do you deal with MCs or walkers? 5 deathwing with TH/SS are only 215pts and have no problem with MCs or walkers. And if you take belial, they're also scoring. I understand that termies can't pursue, but does that really justify the point cost and drawbacks?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4299390.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4299390.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4300010.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4300010.page GMT
I like it as its differnt and not cookie cutter. I wouldn't mind seeing that 1750 list. If you don't mind.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4300858.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4300858.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4300996.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4300996.page GMT Belial-TH/SS, banner, apothecary
Chaplain -meltabomb
Deathwing-3 LC, 2 TH/SS, Cyclone
Deathwing-AC, chainfist
Deathwing-AC, chainfist
Co Vets-5 power weapons, 5 SS, 3 meltabombs, Lazerback, stormbolter
Venerable Dread-AC, flamer, extra armour
Venerable Dread-lascannon, missile launcher, extra armour
Land Raider Crusader-EA, storm bolter]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4307550.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4307550.page GMT
Do you Deep strike the other 2 squads of Terminators? i am guess Beliel and his squad with the Chaplain goes in the Crusader.

Doesn't seem to have a lot of punch.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4307606.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4307606.page GMT LRC. The chaplain is attached to the vets squad in the lazerback. I try to avoid deep striking to keep the termis from dying as they usually do when they teleport.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4307727.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4307727.page GMT DS them without the bikes.

How come the AC's on the terms instead of CML's? I think the CML's are better for sure. I also don't see a need for the C-Fist unless there are alot of Land raiders around where you play.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4307865.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450026/4307865.page GMT