<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "two dark elder lists at 2000pts. Which is better?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net two dark elder lists at 2000pts. Which is better? So, I created two lists, tell me which one you think is better or any seasoned generals with advice on units to modify.
Thanks in advance!

Anyway, here they are:

List 1: 1996pts.

HQ: Lelith Hesperax
HQ: Haemonculus, Liquifier, Venom Blade, Webway Portal
Haemonculus, Liquifier, Venom Blade, Webway Portal
Elite: 8 Grotesques
Troop: 15 Wyches, Hekatrix, agoniser, 3 hydra gauntlets
Troop: 15 Wyches, Hekatrix, agoniser, 3 shardnet and impalers
Troop: 15 Wyches, Hekatrix, agoniser, 3 shardnet and impalers
Troop: 15 Wyches, Hekatrix, agoniser, 3 shardnet and impalers
Fast Attack: 3 Reavers, Heat Lance.
Fast Attack: 3 Reavers, Heat Lance
Talos, Chain-Flails, Haywire Blaster.
Talos, Chain-Flails, Haywire Blaster
Talos, Chain-Flails, Haywire Blaster

I really liked the idea of running a WWP list so this is my first take,
the grotesques and haemys along with lelith would run them across the field,
reavers would hit tanks and then everything would come out and blow things up

List 2: 1998pts.

HQ: Succubus, agoniser, PGL
HQ: Duke Sliscus
Elite: 4 Incubi, Venom
Elite: 7 Trueborn, 7 Shardcarbines, Raider with flickerfield
Troop: 10 Wyches, Hekatrix with agoniser, 2 shard net and impaler, raider with flickerfield
Troop: 10 Wyches, Hekatrix with agoniser, 2 shard net and impaler, raider with flickerfield
Troop: 10 Wyches, Hekatrix with agoniser, 2 shard net and impaler, raider with flickerfield
Troop: 10 Wyches, Hekatrix with agoniser, 2 hydra gauntlets, raider with flickerfield
Fast Attack: 3 Reavers, Heat Lance
Fast Attack: 3 Reavers, Heat Lance
Ravager with Flickerfield
Ravager with Flickerfield
Razorwing Jetfighter with Flickerfield

Just another idea since they WWP one seemed a little lacking ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4304035.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4304035.page GMT Re:two dark elder lists at 2000pts. Which is better? And I'm not sure if the Succubus need the PGL, as she already have Plasma Grenads.

If you want the first one, I'd say drop Lelith (just another unit of wyches is the same price and better), add a Wyches unit, replace hydra gauntlet with shardnet (or drop'em) and fuse your Reavers. And give some wargear to your Grotesques for wound allocation.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4304066.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4304066.page GMT Re:two dark elder lists at 2000pts. Which is better?
For list one: Lelith is junk for what you pay...yes she can get a billion attacks but dies to assault cannons and is only S3. Don't take venom blades on the haemys. Now you need a more reliable way of getting portals into posion. 18" from your board edge isn't it. Drop the grotesques for something with some punch but still has room in the transports for the haemys. Something like blasterborn in a raider w/ FF. Now you need haywire grenades and go with razorfails. You don't want to tarpit with a portal list but rather win combats so take the weapon that gives you the best edge.

For list two: Drop the succubus. They are so expensive for what you get. The biggest hting is drop a wych from 3 of the squads (and her weapon) then pick up 3 haemys w/ liquifiers. This will give you FNP for those squads. Run the weapons as razorflails for maximum damage in CC. In the trueborn run 2 SC first then take carbines. You may not have the points for both reavers and Incubi. I would drop the Incubi personally. You are still going to struggle against big mech lists so ou may want the 3rd ravager.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4304623.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4304623.page GMT two dark elder lists at 2000pts. Which is better? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4304932.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4304932.page GMT two dark elder lists at 2000pts. Which is better?
If you're just walking your portal up the board that first portal will still be a long way back from your opponents front line. If you're in a Venom you can start 12" away from your edge, move 12, disembark from the furthest part of the hull 2" and lay the portal in front of you. This would mean your units would be coming on nearly 30" up the board. On foot its only 18", and that can make the world of difference. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4304979.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4304979.page GMT Re:two dark elder lists at 2000pts. Which is better?
HQ: Succubus, agoniser, PGL


Succubus can't take a PGL, hence your 2nd list is illegal. If only... :(]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4305215.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4305215.page GMT two dark elder lists at 2000pts. Which is better?
HQ: Duke Sliscus: 150pts.
HQ: Haemonculus, venom blade, Webway Portal
Haemonculus, venom blade, Webway Portal
Elite: 4 Kabalite Trueborn, 4 Blasters, Venom
Elite: 3 Bloodbrides, Venom
Troop: 15 Wyches, Hekatrix, agoniser, haywire grenades:
Troop: 15 Wyches, Hekatrix, agoniser, haywire grenades:
Troop: 15 Wyches, Hekatrix, agoniser, haywire grenades:
Troop: 15 Wyches, Hekatrix, agoniser, haywire grenades:
Troop: 10 Kabalite Warriors
Talos, Chain-Flails, Haywire Blaster
Talos, Chain-Flails, Haywire Blaster
Cronos, Spirit Vortex]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4305385.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/450793/4305385.page GMT