http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net I am heading to a 3 round, Rogue Trader style event this weekend. Typically I would bring my balanced ork list which has done fairly well against some competition at the GT, and local GT players field. I wanted a change of pace (honeslty after 1 GT, and 4 local events, I need a breather of lugging the bag and deploying orks) and I have as a 2nd option CSM. Here's a list I worked up that's fully painted, minus full details on 1 dread which i'll be working on tonite. Let me know what you think... i see some glaring holes myself, IE lots of close range anti armor, but not a lot of range. I went with the bigger units of Lesser Demons as I want them to be hard to put away. Only other models to play with: Terminators, most configurations (i went a little over kill on building and paint them). Dreadnaught with TL Heavy Bolter.

Demon Prince, Slaanesh, Lash, Wings
Demon Prince, Slaanesh, Lash
Greater Demon

Terminators x3, Combi Weapons
Dread, 2 CC's, Heavy Armor
Dread, 2 CC's, Heavy Armor

9 Bezerkers. Person Icon. Champ with Pist.
T1: Rhino. Heavy Armor
7 Plague Marines. 2 Plasma Guns. Personal Icon.
T2: Rhino. Heavy Armor
10 CSM. Iron of Glory. 2 Melta Guns. Champ with Combi Melta.
T3: Rhino. Heavy Armor.
12 Lesser Demons
11 Lesser Demons

3x1 Obliterators

Do I think i'm going to win the event? No, highly unlikely. The Orks would stand an excellent chance.
Thoughts:
Is it worth spitting the Lessers into 3-4 smaller squads?
I love dreadnaughts, but feel like if I could Heavy Weapons on them i'm going to pop my own stuff, i do not have a Missile Launcher bit to use.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4321431.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4321431.page GMT Not extremely competitive, but still fun, good and cool.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4322719.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4322719.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4322771.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4322771.page GMT
I have a 2K Ork list I really like, but have played the orks a lot the last month going, 2-1-2. 3-0, 3-0, 2-1, 2-1, against some fairly seasoned gamers in some well attended events. I may run the Orks to continue to re-fine tactics and learn them better. Thought the CSM might be a good change of pace for an event]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4322800.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4322800.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4322851.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4322851.page GMT CSM list]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4323180.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4323180.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4323455.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4323455.page GMT
Please keep us posted as to how the army performed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4324867.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4324867.page GMT cc rhinos to death, and then if they don't get shot/killed by the vehicle contents they will be in assault next turn, rendering the lash useless. If you run a Nurgle prince (pref with wings) you get a Ws7 S6 T6 I5 beast. run that through the same scenario and they survive the shooting and what have you, and then proceed to wreck face. The init bonus MoS would give you should be pointless, as a prince with any other mark will be going first most of the time. Daemon Princes are bullies. If they are fighting things as awesome or awesome-er than they are, you're doing it wrong.
Lose the dreads. They can be fun, unless they shoot your own stuff for three rounds. Also they have dread ccws, but they have a Ws4. They will end up standing in one place the entire game tied in an endless cc. They will generally kill whatever they hit, if they hit it, and take into account they will be losing attacks as their arms get blown off, and they will. If you are going to run dreads give them some real armament. TLL is a nice choice.
I'd lose the regular CSMs and the SLDs and take a decent unit of any other troop choice. it's worth the extra points for fearless and a mark of whatever.
Now if you are going to run SLDs for sure no matter what you may consider running several smaller units of them. Seeing as how you have no reserve manipulation there's no telling when they will come out, and you could use late comers in turn 4 or 5 to snag objectives, or simply contest them. If There are no objectives run 15-20 and call it a day. They are like dirt cheap berserkers with invul saves, sans the furious charge.
Go go Plague Marines. Maybe swap a plasma for a melta... or two plasmas for two meltas... i typically run six.
Love the oblits, but don't run them as solos. They are slow. If you place one with a crappy LoS, he may never get to do anything. Go ahead and run them at least in squads of two. They also have some nob-like survivability in cc at that point.
Lose the heavy armor and go ahead and spring for possession on the rhinos.
From the ground up if you want to run a truly chaotic list I'd run a ton of SLD, Kharn the Betrayer, a sorcerer lord with Gift of Chaos, 2 squads of berserkers, 2 Dreads, some possessed, and some vindicators. It's all of the randomness you could possibly ask for. It WILL NOT win. But it could be fun.
What you have here isn't a terrible list, but the cheese list guys will eat you alive.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4325592.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/451598/4325592.page GMT