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				<description><![CDATA[ E 1500 anti tank- 15 <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> <br /> Archon + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(542);'>PGL</span>=85 <br /> ELITES <br /> 7 incubi raider flicker -70+154=224 <br /> FAST ATTACK <br /> 6x reaver + 2 blaster=162 <br /> TROOPS <br /> 5warriors venom + splinter + blaster=125 <br /> 5warriors venom + splinter + blaster=125 <br /> 8 wych hekatrix agoniser, impaler -152 + raider flicker=190 <br /> 9 wych hekatrix agoniser,hydra -152 + raider flicker=200 <br /> HEAVY SUPPORT <br /> Razorwing-flciker-155 <br /> 2x revager flicker -230 <br /> <br /> archon goes with incubi...razorwing can deep strike or go to reserves to not to be shot on and release all the missiles.....should i get some other missiles <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span>? and reavers just go, smite those infantries and/or bust some tanks <br /> <br /> comments and critics are more than appreciated...]]></description>
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				<title>Re:competitive DE - NEED HELP HERE</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Your archon needs a shadow field and agonizer if he's going with the incubi, I'd drop the special weapons from the wyches and make both 7 strong to get this is in ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 May 2012 17:09:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tristan.t.w.good@gmail.com]]></author>
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				<title>Re:competitive DE - NEED HELP HERE</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ye i wanted archon as cheap as possible just to assault with squad into that cover...any other ideas how to upgrade this list?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 May 2012 18:14:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I find myself pretty confortable with this list, and I think it's a good anti-tank one. But, I have to warn you, I prefer Wracks to Incubi.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Haemonculus + Liquifier Gun + ScissorHand<br /> Haemonculus + Liquifier Gun + ScissorHand<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> 4 Kabalite Trueborn + 4 Blasters; Raider+ Flickerfield<br /> 4 Kabalite Trueborn + 4 Blasters; Raider+ Flickerfield<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 10 Kabalite Warriors + Blaster + Splinter Cannon; Raider + Flickerfield<br /> 10 Kabalite Warriors + Blaster + Splinter Cannon; Raider + Flickerfield<br /> 5 Wracks + Liquifier Gun; Venom + Flickerfield + Splinter Cannon<br /> 5 Wracks + Liquifier Gun; Venom + Flickerfield + Splinter Cannon<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Ravager + Flickerfield + NightShield<br /> Ravager + Flickerfield + NightShield<br /> Ravager + Flickerfield + NightShield<br /> <br /> <br /> As you can see, it has: target saturation, transport stunning capabilities, a good mobility, anti-tank, assault units (Wracks + Haemunculus are 2 Liquifier gun and 2 Pain Tokens!) and scoring units. Hope this helped you (even if it's without Incubi ^^).<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 May 2012 18:32:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nix]]></author>
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				<title>Re:competitive DE - NEED HELP HERE</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thank you, i appreciate it, but i wanted <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> oriented list and ur is just all dakka (dont know about those wracks) i see ur list like a modification of venom spam- i know its competitive but not my style, i see venoms all over the place]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 May 2012 18:51:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zumikito]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well since you're running the Archon with the Incubi i'd really cut back on some Incubi models. 7 and an Archon is really too killy and you'll be out of assault first round. I would suggest you drop the Incubi to 5 models and with the points from that give the Archon an Agoniser and Shadow Field. Although im not going to lie, if you want a more competitive list drop the Archon and switch him with 2 Haemies <br /> w/Liquifier Guns. They'll make you're Wyches A LOT more survivable. Then if you do that make the Incubi about 6 models. Dark Eldar dont like sinking to much points into one unit, we're to fragile for that.<br /> <br /> Also i've learned this in the past, always give your Wyches Haywire Grenades. They need them more than they would need a Wych Weapon.<br /> <br /> If you need points to make upgrades i's suggest maybe dropping the Reavers to 3 models with a blaster. They can still act as a good harassment unit and probably blow up a vehicle because they're so small the opponent might just ignore them for a bit. But for them Heat Lance has always managed to work best for me, 18" AP1 Lance and Melta for less points? Yes please ^_^. Reason being is Reavers are so fast they have absolutely no problem getting with 9" of a vehicle. First turn turbo boost them near the enemy vehicle but be sure to stay about 18" away and behind something were they cant be shot or assaulted, turn 2 fly out and bye bye vehicle (unless you get unlucky and miss of course xD).......but then they'll most likely die but they served they're purpose <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">. But make sure to aim for a big vehicle <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span><br /> <br /> I hope this helps you some <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 May 2012 20:47:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CaptainHonkey]]></author>
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				<title>Re:competitive DE - NEED HELP HERE</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ How about dropping razorwing, get ravager, drop archon, get heamies , and get haywires?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 May 2012 20:59:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zumikito]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That sounds like it would work pretty well. I like it! <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>Lol</span><br /> I actually didn't even notice the Razorwing, i thought you said 3 Ravagers <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> My bad. <br /> But i'd say give that a try! <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 May 2012 21:08:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CaptainHonkey]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Now last question...should i get heamie to wyches or one to wyches and one to incubi? coz i know incubi gonna suffer not having those granades]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 May 2012 21:12:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zumikito]]></author>
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