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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello Dakka. hope you are all well.<br /> <br /> I'm looking to expand my hobby beyond the confines of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>. So <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>PP</span> was an obvious choice.<br /> <br /> I have actually picked up Two models thus far from trips to London over the past year. One from The Orc's Nest and one from Dark Sphere.<br /> <br /> I'm wanting to start collecting a 25pts army (from what I've read that's about a Mid sized game)<br /> <br /> I have in my collection.<br /> Doomshaper.<br /> Runebearer.<br /> <br /> (Please note I purchased these on the basis of loving the models not on the game play aspect).<br /> <br /> I'm not clued up on the rules, In fact I aint got myself a copy yet. However I will in Time and wanted to check/ask a few things first before getting to involved.<br /> <br /> So, cutting to the chase, can anyone recommended a  lists/future models to look into as my next purchase. In essence I want to pick up a few more models before I cough up for the rules and don't want to find that everything I have is either no good or does not work with the other elements in my army.<br /> <br /> Thanks in advance.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 May 2012 10:01:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Looking at Warmahordes. Trollbloods.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ok. I see this forum is not the most active on dakka, so let me try another approach.<br /> <br /> I have been doing some reading about over the past two days and checking out the models I like within the range (I base all my armies on what models I like)<br /> <br /> So, I have come up with a rough Idea of what I would like to get for my army. Again exact point cost ect, is unsure to me but that issue I'll solve when I pick up the rulebook (in a model or twos time),<br /> <br /> My potential list is as follows.<br /> Doomshaper,<br /> Runebearer.<br /> Mulg The ancient.<br /> Dire troll Bomber<br /> Dire troll Mawler.<br /> Scattergunner Unit<br /> Warriors Unit.<br /> <br /> So, Good? Bad? Am I Crazy? comments would be welcome.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 May 2012 08:22:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Do you have <a href="http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/trollbloods/warlocks/hoarluk-doomshaper" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Doomshaper1</a> or <a href="http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/trollbloods/warlocks/hoarluk-doomshaper-rage-of-dhunia" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Doomshaper2</a>? I ask because there is a slight difference between the two versions. Unfortunately I don't play trolls so I can't tell you much about the differences but I think Doomshaper1 can be used with a lot of different guys and Doomshaper2 loves warbeasts but can still take advantage of other things.<br /> <br /> Either way I think that list you have posted up is ok. I haven't heard outstanding things about the scattergunners but their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(192);'>UA</span>* does add a load to them.<br /> <br /> *Units generally have two points values, one for a minimum sized squad and one for a maximum sized. Some units can also have attachments added. Sometimes these are weapon attachments (like the <a href="http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/trollbloods/units/kriel-warrior-caber-thrower" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Caber Thrower</a>) or Unit Attachments (like the <a href="http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/trollbloods/units/scattergunner-officer-and-standard" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Scattergunner Officer</a>)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 May 2012 11:40:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>yastobaal wrote:</cite>Do you have <a href="http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/trollbloods/warlocks/hoarluk-doomshaper" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Doomshaper1</a> or <a href="http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/trollbloods/warlocks/hoarluk-doomshaper-rage-of-dhunia" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Doomshaper2</a>? I ask because there is a slight difference between the two versions. Unfortunately I don't play trolls so I can't tell you much about the differences but I think Doomshaper1 can be used with a lot of different guys and Doomshaper2 loves warbeasts but can still take advantage of other things.<br /> <br /> Either way I think that list you have posted up is ok. I haven't heard outstanding things about the scattergunners but their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(192);'>UA</span>* does add a load to them.<br /> <br /> *Units generally have two points values, one for a minimum sized squad and one for a maximum sized. Some units can also have attachments added. Sometimes these are weapon attachments (like the <a href="http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/trollbloods/units/kriel-warrior-caber-thrower" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Caber Thrower</a>) or Unit Attachments (like the <a href="http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/trollbloods/units/scattergunner-officer-and-standard" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Scattergunner Officer</a>)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Hey thanks for the reply. I have doomshaper1.<br /> <br /> As long as I am on the right path then I'm happy to progress onto making more purchases. Reading the quick start rules at  the moment to get a bit more of an understanding.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 May 2012 12:13:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ deejaybainbridge]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Looking at Warmahordes. Trollbloods.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>deejaybainbridge wrote:</cite>My potential list is as follows.<br /> Doomshaper,<br /> Runebearer.<br /> Mulg The ancient.<br /> Dire troll Bomber<br /> Dire troll Mawler.<br /> Scattergunner Unit<br /> Warriors Unit.<br /> <br /> So, Good? Bad? Am I Crazy? comments would be welcome.</div></blockquote><br /> Doomshaper (either version) and Mulg are best friends, so this makes sense <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">. Mulg is also a beat stick, and hasn't ever really been a "bad" choice for me.<br /> <br /> Scattergunners are a little hard to use, but are not unusable. However, I wouldn't recommend them for starting out.<br /> <br /> Kriel Warriors are good but expensive $$$-wise. Have you considered Fennblades?<br /> <br /> The Bomber really likes being in a list with an Impaler... without one, I'm not sure about his inclusion here.<br /> <br /> The Mauler is a solid choice and can make Mulg hit insanely hard.<br /> <br /> Here's a guide to what units have synergy with him:<br /> <a href="http://www.trollbloodscrum.com/2010/08/old-doomshaper-troll-that-deals-out.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.trollbloodscrum.com/2010/08/old-doomshaper-troll-that-deals-out.html</a><br /> <br /> However, I might consider a different warlock to start with. I really recommend building your list around a warlock, so the most important thing is to first choose the warlock. This is generally considered to be one of our weaker / situational warlocks (great against Hordes, not very good against Warmachine... so a poor "all comers" caster).<br /> <br /> You can check out guides to other warlocks here:<br /> <a href="http://www.trollbloodscrum.com/p/tactics-guides-strategies.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.trollbloodscrum.com/p/tactics-guides-strategies.html</a><br /> <br /> If you do decide to stick with this warlock... surprisingly, there's a list not too disimilar to what you're suggesting posted up there. However, I've never seen/heard of anything like this so I can't vouch for it either way. It's a bit crazy! But uses a lot of the models you listed.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.trollbloodscrum.com/2010/08/old-doomshaper-troll-that-deals-out_08.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.trollbloodscrum.com/2010/08/old-doomshaper-troll-that-deals-out_08.html</a><br /> <br /> He says scattergunners work well under pDoomshaper under fortune, so they may be more viable in his lists than others. This list was written a few years ago, so now those 2 points would likely go to either Scattergunner <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(192);'>UA</span> or Fennblades <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(192);'>UA</span> (unit attachment, like an officer that you purchase for them separately).<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 May 2012 12:33:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Looking at Warmahordes. Trollbloods.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Cheers for the info.<br /> <br /> I have to admit that due to me owning the model and the fact I really love it i'll be sticking with Doomshaper (for better or worse) I play for fun and am not very competitive so concerns he's not the easiest to use does not worry me to much. Shame Rune Bearer appears to be a bit useless with doomshaper, but again I like the model so nothing wasted if he does not find his way into the army.<br /> <br /> So taking into account the advice a revised list may look something like.<br /> <br /> Doomshaper,  (-7)<br /> Runebearer (2)<br /> Mulg The ancient.  (11)<br /> Dire troll Mawler.  (9)<br /> Bouncer (5)<br /> Scattergunner Unit (5 strong)  (5)<br /> Fenblade Unit.+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(192);'>UA</span>  (10)<br /> <br /> Total 35pts (These are only what I hope/suspect the units cost Please tell me if this is widely wrong).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 May 2012 14:18:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ deejaybainbridge]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ At least one of the points costs is off (Mulg) so it'd be worth double-checking these. You can always trawl the trollbloods section on the privateer press forum, it's a great help <img src="/s/i/a/c614b4720f1b7225b0523f616ac30b2f.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <a href="http://privateerpressforums.com/forumdisplay.php?29-Trollbloods-List-Discussion" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://privateerpressforums.com/forumdisplay.php?29-Trollbloods-List-Discussion</a><br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 May 2012 22:44:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ RiTides]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>RiTides wrote:</cite>At least one of the points costs is off (Mulg) so it'd be worth double-checking these. You can always trawl the trollbloods section on the privateer press forum, it's a great help <img src="/s/i/a/c614b4720f1b7225b0523f616ac30b2f.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <a href="http://privateerpressforums.com/forumdisplay.php?29-Trollbloods-List-Discussion" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://privateerpressforums.com/forumdisplay.php?29-Trollbloods-List-Discussion</a><br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> No Problem. Thanks for all the help. Will get my hands on Mulg and maybe another, then the rules and I can check final points costs before dipping to far in.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 May 2012 08:37:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ deejaybainbridge]]></author>
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