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				<title>2000 point Space Marine Gunline(with Stormtalons)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Pedro Kantor 175 pts<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad (Powerfist, Combi-melta, Melta gun, Lascannon) 220 pts <br /> Rhino 35 pts<br /> 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad (power weapon, combi-flamer, flamer, lascannon) 205 pts<br /> Rhino  35 pts<br /> 5 Scouts (power fist, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCWs</span>) 100 pts<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> Dreadnought (2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-autocannons) 125 pts<br /> Dreadnought (2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-autocannons) 125 pts<br /> 6 Assault Terminators (4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>) 240 pts<br /> Landraider 250 pts<br /> <br /> Fast Attack<br /> 2 Typhoons 180 pts<br /> Stormtalon Gunship (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-lascannon) 155 pts<br /> Stormtalon Gunship (Skyhammer missile launcher) 155 pts<br /> <br /> 2000 pts<br /> <br /> <br /> So i'm going to try out the Stormtalon tonight.<br /> <br /> I will attach the Stormtalon with the Lascannon to the Scout squad who will be outflanking. This will hopefully give me a late game ace in the hole.<br /> <br /> The other Stormtalon will hang back and use its Skyhammer missiles along with the Typhoons to give firesupport. <br /> <br /> Pedro bangs around with the Terminators in their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> as a counter assault elements. <br /> <br /> Dreadnoughts bring in even more firepower.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 May 2012 16:48:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Grey Templar]]></author>
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				<title>2000 point Space Marine Gunline(with Stormtalons)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Only things I suggest is put the termies with all <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span> or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> unless you want wound allocation goodness......<br /> Make the scouts bolter ones and get sternguard (You've got Kantor so why not?).<br /> I still have yet to play test a few talons as a few friends of mine bought some.....]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 May 2012 17:38:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Diabolical13]]></author>
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				<title>2000 point Space Marine Gunline(with Stormtalons)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I think for a gun line, you are spending way to much on fancy toys and upgrades.<br /> <br /> You need lots of shooting. Which you can't buy more of since you are spending points on needless upgrades to fulfill your desire to build a gun line.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 May 2012 17:41:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ imweasel]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2000 point Space Marine Gunline(with Stormtalons)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ What fancy upgrades?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 May 2012 17:45:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Grey Templar]]></author>
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				<title>2000 point Space Marine Gunline(with Stormtalons)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> and power weapons in fhe <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads. Go with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ml</span>'s instead of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>lc</span>'s. Just doing that saves 60 points and doesn't really affect your 'gun line'.<br /> <br /> You need to dump one terminator if you plan on having Pedro hang out with the termies. Regular <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s only have a 12 model capacity. That's another 40 points.<br /> <br /> You could buy another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>hb</span>/tml speeder and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>mm</span> for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>.<br /> <br /> If you got rid of the over-costed talons, you could get another 3 tml/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>hb</span> speeders and have points left over.<br /> <br /> I just added 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ml</span>'s and 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>hb</span>'s to your gun line without really reducing any other effectiveness of your army.<br /> <br /> That's what I mean by 'fancy'...<br /> <br /> I'm not even sure why you are even using Pedro...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 May 2012 17:53:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ imweasel]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2000 point Space Marine Gunline(with Stormtalons)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The whole point of this list is to try out the Stormtalons, if that wasn't clear.<br /> <br /> Maybe I'll drop the Sergeant upgrades and the extra Terminator to get another Typhoon.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 May 2012 18:16:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Grey Templar]]></author>
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				<title>2000 point Space Marine Gunline(with Stormtalons)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ In a Pedro list the termies should always take Hammers, not only because they are better to start with but also since his bubble has a bigger impact on hammers than on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span>.<br /> <br /> I would personally scrap the rifleman dreads for ACLC Preds to make room for some Sterngurd. 5 Sternguards with 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span> makes for an excelent scoring unit. <br /> <br /> While Im not sold on the Talon I realize that the point of this list is to try them out but I would still run them naked. With an effective range of 48" <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> and 36" <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> it should be able to chose its targets fairly well. If you want a weapon upgrade then the Typhoon is without doubt the best upgrade. But then I dont really see the point in paying a 65pts premium compared to the Typhoon speeder. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 May 2012 19:11:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tedurur]]></author>
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