http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net FNP or go descent of angels depending on opponents. terminators will deep stike and link up with attacking assault squads hopefully. could also combat squad up and have more MSU style squads.

HQ
Libraian in Terminator armor + storm shield (unleash rage and sang shield or blood lance)

Elites

Sanguinary priest + jump pack, lightning claw, combi melta
Sanguinary priest + jump pack, lightning claw

Terminator assault squad
2 x Lightning claws
3 x Thunderhammers

Assault sqauds

10 x marines, 2 meltas, Sgt with power weapon / infernus pistol
10 x marines, 2 meltas, Sgt with power weapon / infernus pistol
10 x marines, 2 meltas, Sgt with power fist
10 x marines, 2 meltas, Sgt with power fist]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/452440/4338146.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/452440/4338146.page GMT id go with blood lance simply because of the amount of dmg that it can provide. while i do understand the need for unleash rage i find that i would rarely ever need it.

would also drop the termie squad and maybe try for sang guard with 2 infernus pistols and a fist.

as for the sgts, id drop the infernus pistols to give you enough pts to get the sang guard]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/452440/4338197.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/452440/4338197.page GMT JP, and I always take Shield as one of the powers. And if you really want to give the Terminators Unleash Rage when they arrive, you can still attach the Librarian.

You can drop some of the special weapons to get at least a Scout Squad with camo cloaks (90 pts). This will allow your whole army to bound forward and not have to combat squad to babysit an objective. Drop things like the inferus pistosl, LCs on the priests, and/or storm shield.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/452440/4340015.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/452440/4340015.page GMT DoA either.

Really I would ditch the terminator armour on the Librarian and add a jump pack.

Then ditch the Terminators and replace with Sanguinary Guard - there's your flying Terminators.

Priests do not need close combat weapons, you never want them in combat as that's their weakness.

You don't want power weapons on the Sgts. You only want power weapons with flamers, which I think you need at least one unit of flamers. Just have a power fist with meltas because if the meltas fail to take out the tank, then you can assault and smash with the power fist. Power weapon is for anti infantry and you don't want your meltaguns locked in assault when they should be busting infantry.

Hope that helps ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/452440/4340045.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/452440/4340045.page GMT PW Assault Marines can get red rage they will be semi usefull i fyou dont ur wasting the points of a weapon that on the charge on average will hit and wound once that wont cause instant death. Now your PF on the Charge will Average 2 wounds and can instant kill mobs. I never found inferno pistols uselfull, i your that close to a vehicle you dont wanna shoot at it unless ur tryng to get at its soft center but thats what ur 2 meltas are for, ur reli just wasting points for the extra Inferno Pistol.

If you reli wanna make this a fun list take grim so you have a better chance for ur rage and hes just a beast to deal with anyway, or you can b a jack and take Meph which everyone hates but i dont see the point of urTerminators in a 12in base army.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/452440/4342029.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/452440/4342029.page GMT
Firstly, Blood Angels do not need rage when there's a Priest about and that Chaplain character is only needed for Death Company army.

Secondly, a Sgt with a power weapon will get 4 attacks and on average hit twice and wound once - this is because a Priest will be nearby and the Sgt will be S5, so your maths was right on the wounding once.

The power fist has three attacks and will hit twice, like you said, though I am confused why you said the power weapon hits once when it has more attacks...anyway, I am also not sure what you mean by mobs, do you mean Ork Nobz?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/452440/4344370.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/452440/4344370.page GMT