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				<description><![CDATA[ in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> codex the damocles gulf crusasde is labelled as having started in 742 M.41, and in the timeline section the crusade is said to have begun in 979 M.41 and ended in 988 M.41.<br /> which ones right because im doing a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(642);'>SF</span> tier 1 guardsmen company that fought in the crusade and the third war for armageddon, does anyone know which is the right date?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well the regiment could have been destroyed and then reconstituted/refounded. <br /> <br /> That would be the easy way of explaining it.<br /> <br /> Try hitting up the wikia or the Lexicanum to reading the dates.<br /> I remember reading an article that explained it well. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Or they just won and it wasn't the same company members that fought in the two wars.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The former sounds more appropriate, since 979.M41 is only like 20 years prior to the current in-game year in most of the current fluff.  If that were the case, the vast majority of the Imperium, regardless of who they are, would have never heard of the Tau.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 31 May 2012 19:12:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>The former sounds more appropriate, since 979.M41 is only like 20 years prior to the current in-game year in most of the current fluff. If that were the case, the vast majority of the Imperium, regardless of who they are, would have never heard of the Tau.</div></blockquote><br /> I would agree with this as well. From the Tau's point of view Farsight fought in the Damocles crusade and reclaimed worlds in the wake of the imperial withdrawal from tau space, just before he broke away from the empire. He is said to still lead the enclaves although eh would be several hundred years old, many times the average tau life span. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>sierra 1247 wrote:</cite>in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> codex the damocles gulf crusasde is labelled as having started in 742 M.41, and in the timeline section the crusade is said to have begun in 979 M.41 and ended in 988 M.41.<br /> which ones right because im doing a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(642);'>SF</span> tier 1 guardsmen company that fought in the crusade and the third war for armageddon, does anyone know which is the right date?<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Damocles Gulf crusade was definitely in the 740s. A truce was agreed so that each side could prepare for hive fleet Behemoth. <br /> There is a crusade against the Tau in 999 (current timeline I guess). Your regiment could have fought at Armageddon in 998 and then transferred to the Crusade forces on the eastern Fringes but the distances seem a little extreme to warrant sending an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> regiment when closer ones would have been available.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:22:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My understanding from reading all the books is the Damocles Gulf crusade got split into two via the warp with half the fleet arriving in different time frames. Assuming you count the books as valid lore the area of warp leading to Tau space is very dangerous and difficult for imperial ships to fly though.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:36:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Isn't the Third War for Armageddon still <i>ongoing</i>, if one were to go by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> material? As far as I've read, the Imperials scored a big victory against the Ork forces on the main world, but the entire region is still infested with Orks and the troops still cought up in lengthy and bloody &quot;mop-up&quot; operations.<br /> <br /> Of course it's possible that command simply thinks they don't need as many troops anymore and allows some units to be relocated to other warzones. As cadbren mentioned, the distance may seem a bit vast for a reasonable deployment, though. Then again, I suppose there are ways to explain/excuse it (-&gt; clerical error? <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">).<br /> <br /> No idea about whether or not the Imperium actually did send out a new Crusade that year tho. Could always just make one up. Keep in mind that this setting does not have much in terms of canon and consistency. Which of the many conflicting sources you'd like to stick to would be up to you.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:35:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Lynata wrote:</cite>Isn't the Third War for Armageddon still <i>ongoing</i>, if one were to go by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> material? As far as I've read, the Imperials scored a big victory against the Ork forces on the main world, but the entire region is still infested with Orks and the troops still cought up in lengthy and bloody &quot;mop-up&quot; operations.</div></blockquote><br /> At least according to the Ork codex, the third war is ongoing, interrupted only by volcanic eruptions; Ghazghkull, however, having grown bored with one little world, has departed (with Yarrick in pursuit).  You may be thinking of the second (the "original") war for Armageddon, which ended in Imperial victory followed by decades of mopping-up.<br /> <br /> Edit: So far as the Damocles Gulf Crusade goes, the earlier dates (741.M41 - 745.M41) must be the correct ones, in order for its conclusion to culminate with the arrival of the first Tyranid hive fleet.  Unless you want to fall back on the tired device of "warpspace time-dilation", I'd shift your Guardsmen's war against the Tau to the Zeist or Taros campaigns, both of which took place in late M41.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:02:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>English Assassin wrote:</cite>At least according to the Ork codex, the third war is ongoing, interrupted only by volcanic eruptions; Ghazghkull, however, having grown bored with one little world, has departed (with Yarrick in pursuit).  You may be thinking of the second (the "original") war for Armageddon, which ended in Imperial victory followed by decades of mopping-up.</div></blockquote>Probably a mixture of both ... it's been a few months since I last read the material on it. Well, at least I didn't err when saying it's still "on". <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Thanks for clearing this up!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:17:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Pottsey wrote:</cite>My understanding from reading all the books is the Damocles Gulf crusade got split into two via the warp with half the fleet arriving in different time frames. Assuming you count the books as valid lore the area of warp leading to Tau space is very dangerous and difficult for imperial ships to fly though.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Most likely this.<br /> <br /> Codex Tyranids and the hivefleet gorgon in the 900's of M41 has Cadians arriving a "150 years late" and this would fit with the 740's as best guess.<br /> <br /> ( page 21 / date = 760902.M41 ) Cadians arriving at Kel'shan. <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:31:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ by the way how does the imperial date system work?, its confusing]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 9 Jun 2012 22:11:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Date systems would be based on the Terran (earth) calendar and would likely use dates as we know them.<br /> <br /> For Administratum recording purposes though they divide the standard year up into 1000 parts, each part being about 8 hours and 45 minutes long. This is recorded as a three digit number from 000-999. 000 being anytime between 12am and 8:45am on January 1st and 999 being anytime between 3:15pm and 12am December 31st.<br /> <br /> The whole system is explained here:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Dating_System" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(146);'>wh40k</span>.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Dating_System</a><br /> <br /> Another thing to understand is that the current era of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> is the 41st millenium, written M41, as the link says, our current era is M3 (the third millenium which is from the year 2001-3000).<br /> <br /> The last date of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> will be 999 999 M41 which is the last 8 hours and 45 minutes of December 31st, in the year 40,999.<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 10 Jun 2012 00:09:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It works a lot like the Star Date from Star Trek... it's almost entirely made-up and subjective.  Beyond the ABC.M41 part, which gives you a specific year within the 41st millennium, the rest is just sci-fi shenanigans.]]></description>
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