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				<description><![CDATA[ Gonna be playing against the room mate and his Nids, came up with this:<br /> <br /> <br /> Anti horder = 1499 out of 1500<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> <br /> Archon &gt; 140<br />  -combat drugs<br />  -venomblade<br />  -shadow field<br />  -webway portal<br /> Hamey &gt; 75<br />  -liquifer<br />  -scissor hand<br /> Hamey &gt; 75<br />  -liquifer<br />  -scissor hand<br /> Hamey &gt; 75<br />  -liquifer<br />  -scissor hand<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> <br /> 9 kab warrior &gt; 96<br />  -blaster<br /> 10 kab warrior &gt; 105<br />  -blaster<br /> 10 kab warrior &gt; 105<br />  -blaster<br /> 9 wych &gt; 120<br />  -heka<br />  -agoniser<br /> 9 wych &gt; 120<br />  -heka<br />  -agoniser<br /> 9 wych &gt; 120<br />  -heka<br />  -agoniser<br /> <br /> Fast <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(351);'>Atk</span><br /> <br /> 3 reavers &gt; 86 <br />  -cluster caltrops<br /> 3 reavers &gt; 86<br />  -cluster caltrops<br /> 3 reavers &gt; 86<br />  -cluster caltrops<br /> <br /> Transports<br /> <br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> My confliction is i dont know if i should keep the disintegrator cannons on the raiders to add extra anti horde for the gun boats, <br /> or leave them as dark lances to combine with the blasters to target down <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s. Comments, changes, and &quot;your an idiot&quot; are welcome.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:1500 pt DE VS Nid horde</title>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hamey's are fairly meh in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> and don't stand a chance against nids, so I would drop the scissorhands. They are better sticking behind in the wychboats to throw out liquifier shots. <br /> <br /> Make sure your archon is riding in a raider or venom. The venom blade is great for the price and great against bug hordes or thropes, but don't expect him to tangle with heavy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span>'s with 3+ or 2+ armor.  I would drop the webway portal to try and add more raiders/venoms. A venom can shred <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span>'s and bug hordes alike. <br /> <br /> Keep the darklances on the boats. Better to instakill tyrant guard, and you have poison, plenty capable of dealing with tough <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span>'s. <br /> <br /> The warriors would do better with a ride as blasters are short ranged. If you plan to keep them on foot a splinter cannon is better. I would drop them to squads of 5 with blasters to throw them into venoms. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 31 May 2012 22:01:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 1497 out of 1500<br /> <br /> Archon &gt; 105<br />  -combat drugs<br />  -venomblade<br />  -shadow field<br /> Hamey &gt; 110<br />  -liquifer<br />  -webway portal<br />  -scissor hand<br /> Hamey &gt; 75<br />  -liquifer<br />  -scissor hand<br /> Hamey &gt; 75<br />  -liquifer<br />  -scissor hand<br /> <br /> 4 Incubi &gt; 118<br />  -klaivex<br />  -onslaught<br /> <br /> 9 kab warrior &gt; 96<br />  -blaster<br /> 10 kab warrior &gt; 105<br />  -blaster<br /> 10 kab warrior &gt; 105<br />  -blaster<br /> 9 wych &gt; 120<br />  -heka<br />  -agoniser<br /> 9 wych &gt; 120<br />  -heka<br />  -agoniser<br /> <br /> <br /> 3 reavers &gt; 86 <br />  -cluster caltrops<br /> 3 reavers &gt; 86<br />  -cluster caltrops<br /> 3 reavers &gt; 86<br />  -cluster caltrops<br /> <br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> <br /> <br /> Revised my own list. Wasnt very specific on how i was going to strat this or what units i do or do not have.<br /> <br /> As of right now i have no venoms, thats why they arent there. <br /> And the strat here is:<br /> <br /> hamey with portal goes with the 9 kab warriors in a boat, drops of, drops portal ... wyches with other hameys come out of portal along with archon and incubi.<br /> the blasters where b/c of the gun boats and be able to skim around and still be in range.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 31 May 2012 22:26:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1500 pt DE VS Nid horde</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ravagers?<br /> Razorwing?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 31 May 2012 23:04:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>taranis3001 wrote:</cite>1497 out of 1500<br /> <br /> Archon &gt; 105<font color='red'>Scissorhands are still there. While they may be slightly useful against the hordes, you have other things that you could take, like Agonisers. This goes for theArchon as well</font><br />  -combat drugs<br />  -venomblade<br />  -shadow field<br /> Hamey &gt; 110<br />  -liquifer<br />  -webway portal<br />  -scissor hand<br /> Hamey &gt; 75<br />  -liquifer<br />  -scissor hand<br /> Hamey &gt; 75<br />  -liquifer<br />  -scissor hand<br /> <br /> 4 Incubi &gt; 118<font color='red'>Only 4? What are you planning on assaulting?</font><br />  -klaivex<br />  -onslaught<br /> <br /> 9 kab warrior &gt; 96<font color='red'>The troops seem ok. If you have this many Wych models, you could get some bloodbrides and some razorflails or hydra gauntlets.</font><br />  -blaster<br /> 10 kab warrior &gt; 105<br />  -blaster<br /> 10 kab warrior &gt; 105<br />  -blaster<br /> 9 wych &gt; 120<br />  -heka<br />  -agoniser<br /> 9 wych &gt; 120<br />  -heka<br />  -agoniser<br /> <br /> <br /> 3 reavers &gt; 86 <font color='red'>Honestly, against Tyranids, Cluster Caltrops would be awesome and horribly useful, especially against groups of gants. I would take at least one full unit.</font><br />  -cluster caltrops<br /> 3 reavers &gt; 86<br />  -cluster caltrops<br /> 3 reavers &gt; 86<br />  -cluster caltrops<br /> <br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> <br /> <br /> Revised my own list. Wasnt very specific on how i was going to strat this or what units i do or do not have.<br /> <br /> As of right now i have no venoms, thats why they arent there. <br /> And the strat here is:<br /> <br /> hamey with portal goes with the 9 kab warriors in a boat, drops of, drops portal ... wyches with other hameys come out of portal along with archon and incubi.<br /> the blasters where b/c of the gun boats and be able to skim around and still be in range.<br /> </div></blockquote>I would throw a Razorwing or Voidraven in there. Necrotoxin will kill large swathes of gants, and a proper Implosion missile hit have a chance (though a small one) to kill a Hive Tyrant outright.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 31 May 2012 23:25:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ McNinja]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ unfortunatly no tristan ... just started building the army and thats all i got so far. Soon though ... sooooooooooon<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> 1497 out of 1500<br /> <br /> Archon &gt; 105<br />  -combat drugs<br />  -venomblade<br />  -shadow field<br /> Hamey &gt; 95<br />  -liquifer<br />  -webway portal<br /> Hamey &gt; 60<br />  -liquifer<br /> Hamey &gt; 60<br />  -liquifer<br />  <br /> <br /> 4 Incubi &gt; 138<br />  -klaivex<br />  -demiklaives<br />  -onslaught<br /> <br /> 9 kab warrior &gt; 96<br />  -blaster<br /> 10 kab warrior &gt; 105<br />  -blaster<br /> 10 kab warrior &gt; 105<br />  -blaster<br /> 9 wych &gt; 130<br />  -razorflails<br />  -heka<br />  -agoniser<br /> 9 wych &gt; 130<br />  -razorflails<br />  -heka<br />  -agoniser<br /> <br /> <br /> 3 reavers &gt; 86 <br />  -cluster caltrops<br /> 3 reavers &gt; 86<br />  -cluster caltrops<br /> 3 reavers &gt; 86<br />  -cluster caltrops<br /> <br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> <br /> <br /> Another new list.<br /> The archon and incubi are on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> hunts<br /> Got the razor flails<br /> added Demiklaives to incubi<br /> dont understand the post about the reavers]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 31 May 2012 23:25:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>taranis3001 wrote:</cite>unfortunatly no tristan ... just started building the army and thats all i got so far. Soon though ... sooooooooooon<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <br /> Another new list.<br /> The archon and incubi are on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> hunts <font color='green'>Problem is that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> will eat the Incubi, I'd run 9x Bloodbrides with 3x Shardnet to escort an archon with a clone field, ghostplate, agonizer, drugs (idea being that you can reduce the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> attacks towards the archon by 3-5 making them pretty useless.</font><br /> Got the razor flails<br /> added Demiklaives to incubi <font color='green'> Don't like Incubi against Nids nothing for them to kill effectively</font><br /> dont understand the post about the reavers <font color='green'> Use them in a max size unit instead of as  3 small squads </font></div></blockquote> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 31 May 2012 23:51:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ And here we go .. yet another revamp<br /> <br /> 1496 out of 1500<br /> <br /> Archon &gt; 105<br />  -combat drugs<br />  -venomblade<br />  -shadow field<br /> Hamey &gt; 95<br />  -liquifer<br />  -webway portal<br /> Hamey &gt; 60<br />  -liquifer<br /> Hamey &gt; 60<br />  -liquifer <br /> <br /> 9 heka bloodbrides &gt; 162<br />  -3 shardnet impalers<br />  -syren<br />  -venom blade<br /> <br /> 9 kab warrior &gt; 96<br />  -blaster<br /> 10 kab warrior &gt; 105<br />  -blaster<br /> 10 kab warrior &gt; 105<br />  -blaster<br /> 9 wych &gt; 130<br />  -razorflails<br />  -heka<br />  -agoniser<br /> 9 wych &gt; 130<br />  -razorflails<br />  -heka<br />  -agoniser<br /> <br /> <br /> 9 reavers &gt; 238 <br />  -2 cluster caltrops<br /> <br /> <br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> <br /> Better? worse? any other tweeking i can do?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ taranis3001]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>taranis3001 wrote:</cite>And here we go .. yet another revamp<br /> <br /> 1496 out of 1500<br /> <br /> Archon &gt; 105<br />  -combat drugs<br />  -venomblade<br />  -shadow field<br /> <br /> <font color='green'><br /> If he is going with the bloodbrides then he should be setup like this drop a wyche squad to 8 to pay the difference:<br /> Archon <br /> -clone field (your taking shardnet brides to combine with this, reuces any creature he's fighting to -3 and -D3 attacks basically making them need atleast 5 attacks to even do anything to you)<br /> -agonizer (you know what i love more then wounding <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> on a 2+, giving them no save (most dont have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(162);'>inv</span>) on a 4+... math backs this up)<br /> -combat drugs <br /> -ghostplate armour (in case you get hit by some dakka you atleast get a save)<br /> <br />  <br /> <br /> <br />   </font><br /> Hamey &gt; 95<br />  -liquifer<br />  -webway portal<br /> Hamey &gt; 60<br />  -liquifer<br /> Hamey &gt; 60<br />  -liquifer <br /> <br /> 9 heka bloodbrides &gt; 162<br />  -3 shardnet impalers<br />  -syren<br />  -venom blade<br /> <br /> 9 kab warrior &gt; 96<br />  -blaster<br /> 10 kab warrior &gt; 105<br />  -blaster<br /> 10 kab warrior &gt; 105<br />  -blaster<br /> 9 wych &gt; 130<br />  -razorflails<br />  -heka<br />  -agoniser<br /> 9 wych &gt; 130<br />  -razorflails<br />  -heka<br />  -agoniser<br /> <br /> <br /> 9 reavers &gt; 238 <br />  -2 cluster caltrops<br /> <br /> <br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> Raider &gt; 70<br />  -flickerfield<br />  -disintegrator cannon<br /> <br /> Better? worse? any other tweeking i can do?</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ wait .... an agoniser ignores saves?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It is a power weapon that always wounds on a 4+.]]></description>
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