<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0">
	<channel>
		<title><![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "1750 SM Biker List"]]></title>
		<link>http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Latest messages posted in the thread "1750 SM Biker List"]]></description>
		<generator>JForum - http://www.jforum.net</generator>
			<item>
				<title>1750 SM Biker List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hello guys.<br /> <br /> I had a previous bike list which i tested on VASSAL, and failed badly.<br /> <br /> So, with the problems revised (i think?), here is the new list.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Captain w/ Bike, Relic Blade, Hellfire Rounds - 175<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> Scout Squad w/ Camo Cloaks, Sniper Rifles, Missile Launcher - 100<br /> Space Marine Bike Squad w/ +4 men, Power Weapon, 2 Meltaguns, Attack Bike: MultiMelta, Meltabombs – 305<br /> Space Marine Bike Squad w/ +4 men, Power Weapon, 2 Meltaguns, Attack Bike: MultiMelta, Meltabombs – 305<br /> Space Marine Bike Squad w/ +4 men, Power Weapon, 2 Meltaguns, Attack Bike: MultiMelta, Meltabombs – 305<br /> Space Marine Bike Squad w/ +4 men, Power Weapon, 2 Flamers, Attack Bike: MultiMelta, – 290<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Land Speeder Typhoon – 90<br /> Land Speeder Typhoon – 90<br /> Land Speeder Typhoon – 90<br /> <br /> TOTAL - 1750<br /> <br /> Ok, so my previous prombles were:<br /> I had a horribly expensive <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>. Khan with Command Squad. I have changed this to the only other <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> that allows me to take bikes. I've tried to keep the points down, Relic blade for Comat, and Hellfire rounds to make those bolters deadly. 3+ re-roll to hit, 2+ to wound.<br /> I also had no objective campers. In my previous list, if i took a unit out of combat / range to sit on an objective, i was 5 bikes down and hugely outnumbered. Scouts offer me a cheap way of holding an objective and can still contribute with their snipers / <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>.<br /> I had no way to taking vehicles out in range. 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(456);'>LS</span> with Missiles helps. It means that when my bikes get close, i can shoot up squish infantry opposed to putting 2MG and 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> shot into a tank.<br /> 1 bike squad now has flamers. This'll act as a clean up squad. Mainly because i was 10 points over with 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(563);'>MGs</span>, but i think the flamers will help.<br /> Finally, i have buffed the size of my Bike Squads. They were Sarge, 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(563);'>MGs</span>, 2 regulars and an attack bike. They now have 4 regular guys. That way, i can take more wounds before i start losing Melta weapons.<br /> <br /> Now, i aim to play White Scars, so adding Telion and other named characters that isn't Khan is not helpful.<br /> I also aim to keep things fast. I'll hear your ideas, but ideally i'd like to keep my mobility<br /> <br /> Now C&C away!<br /> Cheers  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
				<guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/453145/4352308.page</guid>
				<link>http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/453145/4352308.page</link>
				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:22:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zambro]]></author>
			</item>
			<item>
				<title>Re:1750 SM Biker List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ * Look at the gear of bike sergeants.   They don't have an extra <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> weapon.  If you take a power weapon your only getting 2 attacks!   Buy a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, so your not gimping yourself.  You can lose the meltabombs to help out<br /> <br /> * In a 1750 game, I usually bring just 3 bike squads, and I bring more fire support.   You might have problems with footprint with 4 squads.  Basically with to many bikes its hard to manuver to get shots off.<br /> <br /> * 3 Typhoons might be a bit fragile.  Play a few games and see what happens.]]></description>
				<guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/453145/4352319.page</guid>
				<link>http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/453145/4352319.page</link>
				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:30:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ labmouse42]]></author>
			</item>
			<item>
				<title>1750 SM Biker List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the help <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> **EDIT**<br /> <br /> So i'm playing another game on VASSAL, testing your theory of 'Fire Support'. I like the way it's panning out.<br /> This is my List:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Khan w/ Moondrakkan – 205<br /> Troops: <br /> Space Marine Bike Squad w/ +5 Men, Power Fist, 2 Plasma guns, Attack Bike: Multi-Melta – 320<br /> Space Marine Bike Squad w/ +5 Men, Power Fist, 2 Plasma guns, Attack Bike: Multi-Melta – 320<br /> Space Marine Bike Squad w/ +5 Men, Power Fist, 2 Plasma guns, Attack Bike: Multi-Melta – 320<br /> Elites:<br /> Dreadnought w/ 2 Twin Linked Autocannons – 125<br /> Dreadnought w/ 2 Twin Linked Autocannons – 125<br /> Fast Attack:<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Predator w/ Lascannon Sponsons – 120<br /> Predator w/ Lascannon Sponsons – 120<br /> Whirlwind Missile Launcher w/ Dozer Blade – 90<br /> <br /> TOTAL – 1745<br /> <br /> Now, i combat squads the bike squads. they go Attack bike, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, 3 regulards and the other combat squad is 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>PG</span>, 3 Regulars. That gives me 6 bike squads. I have 2 preds for medium armour destruction. 2 TWAC dreads for transport cracking, and a Whirlwind for massed infantry.<br /> <br /> Previous lists i've built hit the cap from just filling out on 6 bike squads. I'm actually really pleased how this list is looking. Your thoughts?]]></description>
				<guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/453145/4352385.page</guid>
				<link>http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/453145/4352385.page</link>
				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 2 Jun 2012 11:21:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zambro]]></author>
			</item>
	</channel>
</rss>