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BrassScorpion wrote:Every president in times of recession, including ALL the Republican ones of the past 30 years, have added government jobs to help end the recession. But Mitt Romney doesn't seem to have any understanding of economics like the extreme party base he is pandering to.




He understands economics. Obama doesn't. This isn't even Keynesian spending on capital goods. Its just fattening the union payrolls.

Good thing - per Obama - the private sector is just fine. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401775.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401775.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)

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Frazzled wrote:
Good thing - per Obama - the private sector is just fine.


It is. It needed to shed fat.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401779.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401779.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
dogma wrote:Republican Kerry.


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Good thing - per Obama - the private sector is just fine.


It is. It needed to shed fat.


I'll tell that to the 15% unemployed. I'm sure they'll be supportive of your opinion. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401796.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
Frazzled wrote:
I'll tell that to the 15% unemployed. I'm sure they'll be supportive of your opinion.


They will. I have money, which buys boobs, and brains.

Also, they were the fat.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401805.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401805.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
BrassScorpion wrote:Every president in times of recession, including ALL the Republican ones of the past 30 years, have added government jobs to help end a recession. But Mitt Romney doesn't seem to have any understanding of economics like the extreme party base he is pandering to.





That's RT.......they're not exactly known for stellar reporting or being neutral

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dogma wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
I'll tell that to the 15% unemployed. I'm sure they'll be supportive of your opinion.


They will. I have money, which buys boobs, and brains.


It would be humorous actually to see you go to unemployement office and make this argument. To be on the safe side, you might pre-call 911...

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Frazzled wrote:
It would be humorous actually to see you go to unemployement office and make this argument. To be on the safe side, you might pre-call 911...


Pretty sure "Hookers!" will succor most.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401834.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401834.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
dogma wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
It would be humorous actually to see you go to unemployement office and make this argument. To be on the safe side, you might pre-call 911...


Pretty sure "Hookers!" will succor most.

That might indeed get a more positive response. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401862.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401862.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
Consequently, blaming one person for the problems with the economy is equally stupid.

You can't create jobs if there is no demand for products/services provided. The jobs will just flop. People need to want to spend their income on something to create these jobs, not give more money to the so called "job creators" who don't create jobs, demand does.

I pity the country as a whole for not understanding this basic concept. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401875.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401875.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401915.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401915.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid) OT with more RT video; say it ain't so. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401930.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4401930.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402019.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402019.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
Surtur wrote:Pst, the President doesn't actually have the power to fix the economy, it's the Fed, congressional spending and the market itself.


On the other hand, he only needs to pick up a phone to the EPA to crush one. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402064.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402064.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402086.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402086.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
d-usa wrote:I still wonder how Romney will do so much stuff in his first 100 days, when it takes Congress at least 100 days to even agree to disagree on something...
Ruling by executive order? I believe that was a prime complaint of the Republicans too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402090.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402090.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
AustonT wrote:
d-usa wrote:I still wonder how Romney will do so much stuff in his first 100 days, when it takes Congress at least 100 days to even agree to disagree on something...
Ruling by executive order? I believe that was a prime complaint of the Republicans too.


Executive orders are evil (if the other party uses them).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402120.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402120.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
d-usa wrote:I thought Congress approves the person in charge of the EPA and passes all the laws and regulations they enforce?


You thought wrong. The advise and consent to the nomination (I think) but that persons is employed at the direction and pleasure of the President.

Regulations? Once the enabling legislation is passed then the regulations come out. The agencies have a proven ability to expand or contract the exact extent of that enabling legislation with apparent ease. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402130.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402130.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
d-usa wrote:
AustonT wrote:
d-usa wrote:I still wonder how Romney will do so much stuff in his first 100 days, when it takes Congress at least 100 days to even agree to disagree on something...
Ruling by executive order? I believe that was a prime complaint of the Republicans too.


Executive orders are evil (if the other party uses them).
Did you know it is an EO that keeps me from smoking inside Federal buildings? Fascists!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402136.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402136.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
AustonT wrote:BrassScorpion carpet bombs the OT with more RT video; say it ain't so.



Yea I pretty much just roll my eyes when I see his name on the forum anymore ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402202.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402202.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
AustonT wrote:BrassScorpion carpet bombs the OT with more RT video; say it ain't so.


I'm guessing that RT isn't Rotten Tomatoes. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402230.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402230.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402281.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4402281.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
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Frazzled wrote:I'll tell that to the 15% unemployed. I'm sure they'll be supportive of your opinion.
The who? Unemployment is at 8.2% (per the BLS in May 2012).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403574.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403574.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
whigwam wrote:
Frazzled wrote:I'll tell that to the 15% unemployed. I'm sure they'll be supportive of your opinion.
The who? Unemployment is at 8.2% (per the BLS in May 2012).


He's referring to real unemployment.

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dogma wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
It would be humorous actually to see you go to unemployement office and make this argument. To be on the safe side, you might pre-call 911...


Pretty sure "Hookers!" will succor most.

That might indeed get a more positive response.


The idea is to tell them "Free hookers!" then make the argument. They'll be busy and will remember me for giving them free hookers, the argument won't matter.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403610.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403610.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
dogma wrote:
whigwam wrote:
Frazzled wrote:I'll tell that to the 15% unemployed. I'm sure they'll be supportive of your opinion.
The who? Unemployment is at 8.2% (per the BLS in May 2012).


He's referring to real unemployment.


Oh right, I forgot we use the U-6 unemployment rate when attacking politicians we dislike, and the actual unemployment rate when we're playing apologist to the ones we do like. My mistake.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403643.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403643.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
DakkaDakka - Fair & Balanced.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403693.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403693.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
dogma wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Good thing - per Obama - the private sector is just fine.
It is. It needed to shed fat.
The overhwelming majority of the job loss was in the public sector, not the private sector.

A three to one ratio, in fact.

Republicans have created so much job loss through reduction of the public sector that the growth of the private sector hasn't been able to keep up very well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403703.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403703.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
whigwam wrote:
Oh right, I forgot we use the U-6 unemployment rate when attacking politicians we dislike, and the actual unemployment rate when we're playing apologist to the ones we do like. My mistake.


The gap between U-6 and U-3 has noticeably increased in the last decade or so.

Melissia wrote:
Republicans have created so much job loss through reduction of the public sector that the growth of the private sector hasn't been able to keep up very well.


Nah, the problem is that we simply don't need all that many people to work. Lots of Americans are superfluous given our employment culture. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403717.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403717.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
Namely, we quite literally lost three times as many public sector jobs as private sector jobs, and the end result of public plus private sector job loss was that we had very little job growth.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403723.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4403723.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
whigwam wrote:
Frazzled wrote:I'll tell that to the 15% unemployed. I'm sure they'll be supportive of your opinion.
The who? Unemployment is at 8.2% (per the BLS in May 2012).


Only when you wack off the people who ran out of unemployment benefits or quit looking for work out of despair. If you use the population of workers at the start of 2009, its 15%.
That doesn't even count underemployed.


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Melissia wrote:
dogma wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Good thing - per Obama - the private sector is just fine.
It is. It needed to shed fat.
The overhwelming majority of the job loss was in the public sector, not the private sector.

A three to one ratio, in fact.

Republicans have created so much job loss through reduction of the public sector that the growth of the private sector hasn't been able to keep up very well.


You really do follow the talking points don't you. The thought that the job losses were greater in the public sector are insanely laughable.


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dogma wrote:
Nah, the problem is that we simply don't need all that many people to work. Lots of Americans are superfluous given our employment culture.


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Frazzled wrote:You really do follow the talking points don't you.
I don't watch TV.

Frazzled wrote:The thought that the job losses were greater in the public sector are insanely laughable.
And yet it is true.

From the start of this year to about the beginning of last month, we had a job gain of +289,000, with an net job gain (gain minus losses) of +69,000. Of the difference (220,000), about 161,000 were government jobs. Which leaves 59,000 lost from private sector jobs, just shy of the three to one ratio I mentioned, but the point is still valid.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4404389.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455533/4404389.page GMT Tale of the tape, Romney lies again (or is just plain stupid)
Wait you're using this year as yourt baseline? HAHAHAHAHA
Use 2008 as the baseline.


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Oh look now that the EPA has set up the demise of the coal power egeneration industry by year end, its moving back to kill refiners. Get those regs in before the administraiton changes boys! We've got industries to kill!

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