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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey there, I need help with rules on a new flyer I am making. Anybody willing to help?<br />  It is based on an old 1/72nd scale Airfix Short Sterling bomber from WW2. I have converted it to be Imperial Navy.<br />  It is armed with: 1 Multi-laser, 1 Lascannon,Twin-Linked heavy Bolters, Twin-Linked Autocannons, Storm-Bolter, Twin-Linked Plasma Guns and 2 Hellstrike Missiles.<br /> Any help on a name and rules would be appreciated, thanks]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:05:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Need help with a new Flyer</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You could call it the Bristler, because that seems like alot of guns. Is that too many? I can't really be of much help on this one.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:13:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yh i would say that i should only have the heavy bolters the lascannon and the hellstrike missiles, other wise that model should have a pts value of 350!!<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:42:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It doesn't look right without the other weapons, that's why they are on there.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:10:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sounds a bit silly if you ask me: a WWII model with a few random weapons tacked on. I'd keep it to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Autocannon, Hellstrikes and maybe the Heavy Bolter]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:36:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Could you post a pic to give us a better idea?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:33:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I will later today. It doesn't look too bad if I'm honest.<br /> <br /> <br /> Here it is: <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-32374-26871_New%20Flyer.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-32374-26871_New%20Flyer.html</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:37:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Having that  variety of guns makes it able to do alot of things but not be as great at any of them than a more specialized unit. That would make it not as likely to exist, but i'm sure somewhere in the Imperium they have it.<br /> <br /> It defintely uses the flyer rules from apocalypse/forge world. Saying that thing could hover is crap. Then again... do the ork bommers have rules that force them to go forward? idk, so i'm useless again.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:45:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I wasn't going to give it Hover Mode. Any help on the name then?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:43:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Jack (jack of all trades)?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 16 Jun 2012 19:31:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ its a british design, and Short always named their aircraft after towns and villages, like sunderland or stirling so it could be the Short Hades or something....]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 16 Jun 2012 21:56:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like the idea, and the models looks okay too, <br /> <br /> i would say rather than having all the turrets guns having individual profiles perhaps group them all under one profile of a twin-linked heavy bolter that has a 360 degree firing arc.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:11:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, since it looks like a WW2 british fighter...<br /> I was thinking something like Spitfire...well, ok not exactly but something that's like that.<br /> I just couldn't think of it myself  <img src="/s/i/a/504660322487159bb25fddaa475847a6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:32:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>CthuluIsSpy wrote:</cite>Well, since it looks like a WW2 british fighter...<br /> I was thinking something like Spitfire...well, ok not exactly but something that's like that.<br /> I just couldn't think of it myself  <img src="/s/i/a/504660322487159bb25fddaa475847a6.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br />  a fighter, really? its a second world war Short Stirling, a British heavy bomber.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like the idea of it, you could state that some to the weapons can only be used against other flyers. For instance the tail gun and the dorsal gunner wouldn't ever be able to fire at ground forces, and they would have the sky fire rules. <br /> <br /> The flyer rules have it set up so you can fire up to four weapons at combat speed, so that would make sense with all the forward facing weapons. Since it was a bomber I would also pull the missiles and use it properly as a bomber. <br /> <br /> Most flyers would be more symmetrical so I would have the two weapons on end of the wings be the same, and probably closer to the hull for big guns like that. (Personal opinion) I would expect the multi lasers since volume of fire would be more important then fine targeting with big weapons on a flyer. <br /> <br /> Strikes me as more of a stay up high and bomb things then a diving to strafe the battlefield. So perhaps give it a special rule that allows it to drop two bombs as its flying per turn instead of one?<br /> <br /> All in all I like the idea of using such models for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, especially with the large number of flyers that should be in this new edition. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 1 Jul 2012 15:41:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Need help with a new Flyer</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>sierra 1247 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>CthuluIsSpy wrote:</cite>Well, since it looks like a WW2 british fighter...<br /> I was thinking something like Spitfire...well, ok not exactly but something that's like that.<br /> I just couldn't think of it myself  <img src="/s/i/a/504660322487159bb25fddaa475847a6.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br />  a fighter, really? its a second world war Short Stirling, a British heavy bomber.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Sorry, I am bad at identifying aircraft. I prefer tanks  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:03:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i know what you mean, tanks are shootier]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>d.fear wrote:</cite>Hey there, I need help with rules on a new flyer I am making. Anybody willing to help?<br />  It is based on an old 1/72nd scale Airfix Short Sterling bomber from WW2. I have converted it to be Imperial Navy.<br />  It is armed with: 1 Multi-laser, 1 Lascannon,Twin-Linked heavy Bolters, Twin-Linked Autocannons, Storm-Bolter, Twin-Linked Plasma Guns and 2 Hellstrike Missiles.<br /> Any help on a name and rules would be appreciated, thanks</div></blockquote><br /> That is too many confusing guns. I suggest a bit of standardization if you will. Eg. replace the autocannons with multi-lasers (still can be twin-linked), and the storm bolter and plasma guns with heavy bolters. Because honestly it seems like it will be annoying to deal with all those different guns shooting. Also from a fluff perspective the logistics would be mind numbing, 3 different caliber guns, plasma fuel cells, 2 missiles, and power packs or a converter for the lascannon and multi-laser, techpriests would call it heretical just so they won't have to deal with the maintenance. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If you look at the pics, Buttons, you can see tha it is almost physically impossible to replace the plasma guns and the storm bolter with Heavy bolters due to space restrictions.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ d.fear]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Looted flyer, because thats the on;y place your find this configuration. Really, a PLASMA GUN!!!! ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, a plasma gun. Don't like it? Deal with it.]]></description>
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