http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Here are two lists I am thinking of using:

Original:
HQ:

170 pt Troops:
2x85 pt 2x5 Immortals (Tesla/Gauss)

95 pt Elites:
95 pt 5 Deathmarks

145 pt Fast Attack:
60 pt 4 Scarab bases
85 pt 2 Wraiths (Whip Coil/Particle Caster)

90 pt Heavy Support:
90 pt Annihilation Barge

Alternate:
HQ:

170 pt Troops:
2x85 pt 2x5 Immortals (Tesla/Gauss)

200 pt Elites:
200 pt 5 Lychguards

40 pt Fast Attack:
40 pt 1 Wraith (Particle Caster)

90 pt Heavy Support:
90 pt Annihilation Barge

The second list I made after realizing I had no real heavy hitters in the first. I know their are going to be terminators and the like and having no power weapons or anything worried me. I only threw the Wraith in to fill up the extra 40 points left over.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I don't wanna get knocked out in the first round.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455978/4409777.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455978/4409777.page GMT HQ (and no crypteks) I'm assuming that this has the no 3 wound, no AV >11 rule?

Without Crypteks, imho, both Lychguard and deathmarks lose a lot of effectiveness (because the Lychguard aren't fast enough and 5 x Deathmarks don't have enough hitting power by themselves.). So, I'd be inclined to drop them.

With the extra points, boost your wraith, scarab or anni barge choices (as models and your preferences permit). Actually, can you have an Anni Barge (AV13)?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455978/4410027.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455978/4410027.page GMT AV 11 but quantum shielding raises it to 13 normally but only to AV12 in combat patrol rules.

My worry is Terminators or anything with 2+ armor. I dont have power weapons in this list and that worried me.

What if i drop a squad if immortals for 3 Wraiths 2 with whips, hit them with the wraiths first to give lych and edge?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455978/4412270.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455978/4412270.page GMT TH/SS termies will chew through lychguard unless they have swords and boards.

Imho, the lists you have ATM are a bit fractured, with not enough of any unit to really male them a threat. So, when you play the list you'll have to work hard to keep everything together and focussing on the same unit.

What about picking a couple of heavy hitting units you like and focussing on them.

So, 5 wraiths, 2 whip coils, 1 anni barges with the rest tesla immortals/warriors?

Or, 3 barges, the rest being tesla immortals and warriors? For better AT, trim immortals/warriors and add 6 scarab bases?

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Edit: I played with the Praetorian-Wraith combo against a friend. It worked rather well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455978/4413860.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/455978/4413860.page GMT