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				<description><![CDATA[ For instance terra or mars has probably trillions of people. The landscape is littered with buildings, leaving not much room for trees, which reproduces oxygen for us to breath. So what kind of systems have been developed in order for people to breath? I mean its a legitimate question but not sure if anyone really knows. Any speculation?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Jul 2012 16:32:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:question about super populated planets.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ In "Wrath of Iron", the atmosphere has become so polluted as to be toxic in minutes. Everyone lives indoors, where the air is cleaned and filtered from outside.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Jul 2012 17:09:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ On what planet?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Jul 2012 17:09:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They have giant CO2 scrubbers for the entire planet. They are used on Hive and Forge worlds the galaxy over.<br /> <br /> The Carbon will be used to create artificial foodstuffs or as a construction material, really whatever Carbon would be useful for.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Jul 2012 17:14:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> rather just move to some low populated planet then live on a hive world]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Jul 2012 17:34:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You probably wouldn't have a choice.<br /> <br /> Unless you're rich, or join the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span>, the chances of you getting off world are almost zero. Or you might get lucky and be stuck on a pilgrimage to Terra, in which case you will never leave once you get there.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Jul 2012 17:40:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd hijack some <font color='orange'>[MOD EDIT - Please do not try to circumvent the expletive filter - thanks!]</font>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Jul 2012 17:57:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No one ever makes it to terrra actually, NO one but the most important can make it there.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Jul 2012 17:58:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:question about super populated planets.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Not quite correct Hotsauceman1, pilgrims arrive by the millions each year. They are people, IE: religious fanatics, who have sold everything to purchase passage to Terra. Sometimes it takes them entire lifetimes to gather the means to make it. All for the chance to trod the holy soil of terra and see some of the monuments.<br /> <br /> Afterwards, they live the rest of their wretched lives in the shadow of Terra. <br /> <br /> Of course Terra has "normal" people too. People that do everyday jobs and live everyday lives. Terra is no different from other Hive worlds in that regard.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Jul 2012 18:02:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The new rulebook said that very few make it to the solor system themselves. That to see terra with their own eyes from a distant planet is what most can hope for.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Jul 2012 18:05:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well in this universe I ended up in the marine corps. So... in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> universe <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> probably end up as a guardsmen. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>Lol</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Jul 2012 18:43:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>hotsauceman1 wrote:</cite>The new rulebook said that very few make it to the solor system themselves. That to see terra with their own eyes from a distant planet is what most can hope for.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> 'Very few' people might mean a multitude by our standards. A few tens of billions of pilgrims per year would be 'very few' citizens of the Imperium.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Jul 2012 22:42:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Brother Thomas wrote:</cite>Well in this universe I ended up in the marine corps. So... in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> universe <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> probably end up as a guardsmen. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>Lol</span>.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> 'rah!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 8 Jul 2012 04:31:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't think that - aside from a few novel authors and their various individual ideas - the writers have bothered to come up with a lot of science behind their setting. However, an awful lot of people seem to wear masks (often called "rebreathers") or have various tubes stuck in their bodies, which might hint towards mechanical augmentation to deal with such environmental conditions.<br /> <br /> As to further speculation, I kinda like the idea of large intra-system spaceships ferrying blocks of ice from nearby moons, planets or asteroids, which are then broken down to produce oxygen and hydrogen, or water, depending on what is currently in more demand.<br /> <br /> Maybe they even sell this:<br /> <br /> <img src="http://assets.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/startups/1111-mel-brooks-spaceballs-perri-air-courtesy-315*280.jpg?v=1" border="0" /><br /> <br /> As for pilgrims, the 2E <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(121);'>SoB</span> Codex contained a star chart with the most prominent/important pilgrim route, leading from Ophelia VII to Terra, passing through the sacred worlds of Chiros and Gathalamor. The journey takes approximately nine years to complete.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 8 Jul 2012 04:56:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think the air is somewhat breathable inside the hives, probably stale and recycled as well, but outside they'd have rebreathers.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 8 Jul 2012 04:59:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Brother Thomas wrote:</cite>Well in this universe I ended up in the marine corps. So... in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> universe <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> probably end up as a guardsmen. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>Lol</span>.</div></blockquote><br /> Depends on what planet you were born on. It may be that you end up in one of the elite regiments of the Planetary Defence Forces and never go off-world. <br /> Or, you join the Guard, the 1121st regiment of the planet. The system is that when they get to the 9999th regiment they start back at the 1st. Thing is, they seem to name a new 1st regiment at the start of every year. You're in an elite unit but your entire planet is regarded as a meat shield for the armies of more politically connected planets so your skills don't count for much. Good luck! You'll need it. <br /> Your best bet is to get a job as a mercenary or security detail for a Rogue Trader or some other rich type, though you'd need to get your timing right in leaving the guard to avoid getting caught by the commissariat.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 8 Jul 2012 11:34:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I personally would like to think that oxygen is re-used and carbon is taken from the atmosphere and used. <br /> Or a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(524);'>GM</span> organism that takes carbon and produces oxygen very efficiently. <br /> That and most just use re-breathers when travelling onto new ground. <br /> <br /> On the subject of leaving a planet your best bet is with a rogue trader/inquisitor or some famous house of terra or your home world. <br /> <br /> I would like to think I joined a rogue traders detail and I work on different gadgets and gizmos for any difficult situation<br /> Like Q for Bond <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<title>Re:question about super populated planets.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Incidentally, the combined population of Terra and Mars was listed as half a trillion.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>DarknessEternal wrote:</cite>Incidentally, the combined population of Terra and Mars was listed as half a trillion.</div></blockquote><br /> Mars is pretty lightly populated. If we assume all of those live on Terra, that gives us a population density of 980 per square km, slightly higher than Bangladesh, and about 2 and a half times that of England (which isn't THAT dense).<br /> So there's probably a fair bit of space around. Obviously public things like squares, plazas, parks etc, but also probably a fair bit of wilderness. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Testify wrote:</cite>but also probably a fair bit of wilderness. </div></blockquote>If I remember correctly, the only areas not "claimed" by artificial construction were mentioned to be the polar caps, though I vaguely recall it being said that the Inquisition has a large base there.<br /> <br /> There's probably a relatively large amount of open plazas and military staging areas (if you consider the artwork for the Imperial Palace and what lies before) as well as hazardous industrial areas.<br /> <br /> Then there is the question of whether these population numbers even include servitors (of which the majority of the people on Mars consist) and mutants who eke out their lives in the vast toxic sublevels, fighting for scraps of food and fearing Imperial purification efforts.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Aye, the way the population levels for Ancient Greece didn't include the 95% of people who were helots, or colonial outposts that only counted the few thousand white men, ignoring the slaves/natives.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Also, the oceans have boiled away, and almost all of the mountains have been levelled, so there is more space.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not quite correct. The Oceans were boiled away by Horus's bombardment, but the water has long since condensed and is still there all those hundreds of meters below the surface.<br /> <br /> The Imperial Palace is also situated in the Himalayas. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well i do know that the Armageddon Steel Legion has to wear gas masks and thick trench coats because of their planets toxic atmosphere, although they only really encounter it while outside fighting the orks. Otherwise they live and stay in protected hive cities.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would guess they have built some giant CO2 scrubbers to clean the carbon out of the air. (Like the ones used on current spacecraft, but bigger)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Grey Templar wrote:</cite>Not quite correct. The Oceans were boiled away by Horus's bombardment, but the water has long since condensed and is still there all those hundreds of meters below the surface.<br /> <br /> The Imperial Palace is also situated in the Himalayas. </div></blockquote><br /> I thought it was the Emperor's labs that were in the Himalayas, which are kept undisturbed for the most parts.<br /> <br /> I think I read somewhere that the Imperial Palace itself is centred on Birmingham.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>GambleDwarf wrote:</cite>Well i do know that the Armageddon Steel Legion has to wear gas masks and thick trench coats because of their planets toxic atmosphere</div></blockquote>As a sidenote, the only absolutely inhospitable regions on Armageddon are the so-called "Fire Wastes" and "Dead Lands" - I might remember incorrectly, though I'm fairly sure about this bit.<br /> <br /> The Steel Legion probably wears these masks simply due to industrial pollution and because they operate so close to so many vehicles.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Lynata]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Daba wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Grey Templar wrote:</cite>Not quite correct. The Oceans were boiled away by Horus's bombardment, but the water has long since condensed and is still there all those hundreds of meters below the surface.<br /> <br /> The Imperial Palace is also situated in the Himalayas. </div></blockquote><br /> I thought it was the Emperor's labs that were in the Himalayas, which are kept undisturbed for the most parts.<br /> <br /> I think I read somewhere that the Imperial Palace itself is centred on Birmingham.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That was waaay old fluff. Back when it was more of a joke(because it was over England)<br /> <br /> The Emperor's lab complex is on Luna. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Grey Templar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>GambleDwarf wrote:<br /> Well i do know that the Armageddon Steel Legion has to wear gas masks and thick trench coats because of their planets toxic atmosphere<br /> As a sidenote, the only absolutely inhospitable regions on Armageddon are the so-called "Fire Wastes" and "Dead Lands" - I might remember incorrectly, though I'm fairly sure about this bit. <br /> <br /> The Steel Legion probably wears these masks simply due to industrial pollution and because they operate so close to so many vehicles.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> I believe this to be true as well. I remember reading a "Col Schafers Last Chancers" Novel about how they had to go across the waste lands and needed re-breathers. Even still, a MOP suit(or a protective sut) and even that dried out there skin, and gave them rashes. But look at the Death Korps of Krieg. They all have re-breathers... Maybe the Steel Legion, and Korps of Kreig are just "special units" who go to worlds that the air is not the breathable. I dont know much about guard. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 Jul 2012 13:40:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ J99Pwrangler]]></author>
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				<title>Re:question about super populated planets.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>J99Pwrangler wrote:</cite><blockquote class="uncited"><div>GambleDwarf wrote:<br /> Well i do know that the Armageddon Steel Legion has to wear gas masks and thick trench coats because of their planets toxic atmosphere<br /> As a sidenote, the only absolutely inhospitable regions on Armageddon are the so-called "Fire Wastes" and "Dead Lands" - I might remember incorrectly, though I'm fairly sure about this bit. <br /> <br /> The Steel Legion probably wears these masks simply due to industrial pollution and because they operate so close to so many vehicles.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> I believe this to be true as well. I remember reading a "Col Schafers Last Chancers" Novel about how they had to go across the waste lands and needed re-breathers. Even still, a MOP suit(or a protective sut) and even that dried out there skin, and gave them rashes. But look at the Death Korps of Krieg. They all have re-breathers... Maybe the Steel Legion, and Korps of Kreig are just "special units" who go to worlds that the air is not the breathable. I dont know much about guard. </div></blockquote><br /> The Death Korps are great for trench warfare, they do routinely volunteer their regiments for the most dangerous war zones. I would say they are definitely specialized, then again a lot of regiments have their own specializations, such as being stealth, or shock troopers etc. Their not really deployed only to worlds where the air is not breathable, if a campaign is going to happen on a world where the world is not breathable the Departmento Munitorum should supply the participating regiments with re-breathers and other necessary equipment.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 11 Jul 2012 05:12:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>question about super populated planets.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thinking about this for awhile and it's probable that, on top of the O2 scrubbers, recyclers and other techno-apparatus in place that keeps the air in Hives somewhat breathable, you've got a whole lot of room in Hives for things like hydroponic gardens that breed some sort of super-oxygenating plant that, through genetic engineering by the Mechanicus, creates like a thousand times more oxygen that it would normally be expected to through photosynthesis and other planty habits.<br /> <br /> With enough gardens like this in place, scattered throughout the Hive, you'd probably not have a great atmosphere, but definitely one capable of supporting human life.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:21:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Psienesis]]></author>
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