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Relic Blade axes

jordanis — GMT

how would this work? because the rules in C:SM says "Relic Blades are two-handed power swords or axes [...] whose hits are resolved at Strength 6."
lets say Red Scorpions relic blades: typically are axes, so would that be a S6 I1 AP2 attack or would it go under the Unusual power weapons category?
Relic Blades are not listed in the Weapons list in the back of the rulebook...and are not mentioned in the errata.

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riverhawks32 — GMT

My guess would be the str6 ap2 attacks?

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CrashCanuck — GMT

It's just modelled an axe, Relic Blades are unusual power weapons as they have their own rules (2 handed and strike at s 6) so with 6th edition they get ap 3 added onto that.

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erick99 — GMT

It would be an unusual power weapon, benefiting from S6 (C:SM) and AP3 (BRB). As such, it would not be AP2 or unweildy, as neither unusual power weapons or the relic blade entry list this.

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Lobokai — GMT

As others have said, unusual are AP3 +their special rules. A relic Axe (which I have 2 of) is no different than a relic sword (use 1 of those) is no different than a relic halberd (use 2 of those 2).

All are Str 6 Ap3

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jordanis — GMT

thats unfortunate oh well...

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Kommissar Kel — GMT

CrashCanuck wrote:It's just modelled an axe, Relic Blades are unusual power weapons as they have their own rules (2 handed and strike at s 6) so with 6th edition they get ap 3 added onto that.

You got the Whether modeled Axe or not It is .

But One of your listed Rules is Incorrect.

Relic Blades are Not Two-handed weapons; they are single handed weapons that never gain the benefit for a Second Weapon(as Opposed to most other Melee Weapons, and Specialist weapons, that can both gain a Bonus attack for 2+ CCWs).

So Bonuses:

2 CCWs.
CCW with Specialist and another CCW with Specialist Carried
CCW with a CCW with Specialist Carried

Never a Bonus:
Model is carrying a Relic Blade
Model has a Storm Shield

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jordanis — GMT

nevermind

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it does list in the weapons profile: counts as power weapon that strikes at S6. so then it could be an axe, and would strike at S6, I1, and AP2

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evildrspock — GMT

If it "counts as a power weapon" that strikes at S6 and does not allow bonus attacks for 2 weapons, it would now count as a power sword. Probably. Dang, now you confused me. Probably the power sword with modified Strength and no bonus attacks. But darn, that's weird.

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Kiredor — GMT

It would count as an Unusual Power Weapon

(which has the same AP as a sword)

You only get to have a Power Axe/Maul/Sword/Lance if you have no further special rules.

Always S6 is a special rule.

So it is never a Power Axe/Sword/Maul/Lance.

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Ruarinator2 — GMT

I'd say that it would be S7,I1, and AP2. This is because axes also confer +1S as well. What does the FAQ say?

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Cheex — GMT

It's a power weapon with additional rules. That's the very definition of an 'Unusual Power Weapon', so it is just AP3.

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rogueeyes — GMT

It is ap3 since it always trikes at s6 and cannot gain additional attacks for additional ccw. These are extra special rules causing it to be an unusual power weapon thus ap3. Saying it counts as a power weapon means you get the ap3 otherwise it would be s6 ap - and then it would plain out be horrible.

Remember look to see if it has any extra rules that are written out and not usr's. Of course there is an argument around that as well but usr's are not unique rules and thus do not fall under unusual power weapons. Relic blades would however.

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erick99 — GMT

As stated above, relic blades are unusual power weapons. However, even if you used it as an axe, you would still only strike at S6. Relic blades do not add two strength, they always strike at S6. (The same is true of how power fists strike at I1. I does not matter if you are a I5 Captain or an I3 IG Sergeant - you will strike at I1, regardless of any other bonuses.)

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juraigamer — GMT

It's an unusual power weapon, ap 3 with it's rules. If you instead paid for a power weapon when building your army, and if the model had an axe, then he would have a power axe.

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erick99 — GMT

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/460726.page
This answers the question fully.

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jordanis — GMT

thanks...i will just be using these giant 2 handed axes as power axes then