whigwam wrote:I like it! I'd consider Skulltaker on Juggernaut to replace one of the Heralds though. Decapitation is neat trick, plus his rending on a 4+ is now very useful with Bloodcrushers otherwise limited to AP3.

calypso2ts wrote:There is no debate on the icon, the CSM icons only allow for Oblits, Greater/Lesser Daemons and Terminators to deep strike off them.

I would get Lash myself over the dual Tzeetch powers.

xSoulgrinderx wrote:The only thing in CSM that the daemons need are las cannons. That's it. They need something with 48" range. So take some obliterates and drop them on a lading pad (which ALL DAEMON PLAYS MUST HAVE)

The landing pad is the single most broken thing ever. You can literally take 40 plagues and put them on the platform and raise the shields. INSTAN PIT OF ZOMBIES.

Stifflersthedog wrote:Heyas just adding my two cents. I've played 4 games with new rules and daemons, i can say that most players will shoot the bejesus out of kairos so dont plan on him surviving past turn 3. What i've taken to using is bloodthirster 1 daemon prince (in higher points) and a Soulgrinder. Kairos envitably dies but then the bloodthirster and grinder, and other elites (fiends/crushers) will mop up. If your opponent lacks the dakka to kill kairos its pretty much overs. I think DP will benefit from breath of chaos as the glancing of tanks is actually not a bad way of killing them sometimes you can hit multple tanks and with 3 DP's doing it thats gonna knock alotta hps off.

And ye used the temple of skulls from fantasy as my landing pad, worked wonders especially after everything had landed i gave the soulgrinder a 4++ definatly worth a think.