http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Any help or comments on either list would be much appreciated

1999 pts Eldar and DE
HQ
Farseer stones,both runes,fortune and guide-155

Elites
6 Fire dragons Exarch w/ Flamer and tank hunter-123
-Wave Serpent w/ Shuriken cannons and stones-110

Troops
10 Avenger, Exarch w/ 2 catapults and blade storm-152
6 Pathfinders-144
6 Pathfinders 144

Fast Attack
9 Warp Spiders,Exarch w/ powerblades and extra Death-225

Heavy Support
Fire Prism-115
Fire prism-115
5 Dark Reapers,Exarch with tempest and crack shot-227

Allies
Archon,agoniser, drugs, shadowfield,ghostplate,soul trap,blast pistol-155
4 Incubi-88
-Venom-55
10 Kabalites-Blaster and dark lance, sybarite-140
Ravager w/ nightshields-115

This list is supposed to be a gunline with the archon and incubi sitting in the venom waiting to counter assault.

1999 Eldar and Tau
HQ
Farseer stones,both runes,fortune and guide-155

Elites

Troops
10 Avenger, Exarch w/ 2 catapults and blade storm-152
6 Pathfinders-144
6 Pathfinders 144

Fast Attack
10 Warp Spiders,Exarch w/ powerblades and extra Death-225

Heavy Support
Fire Prism-115
Fire prism-115
5 Dark Reapers,Exarch with tempest and crack shot-249

Allies
Shas'o-TL plasma, fusion gun,Iridium Armour multi tracker and 2 Shield drones-142
10 Fire warriors shas'ui marker drone-140
3 Crisis Suits Team leader 3TL plasma ,3targeting array and 2 shield drones-240
2 Broadsides team leader 2 shield drones-170

Total
1991

This is also supposedto be a gunline army but sacrifices the counter assault for more anti tank and anti TEQ
Again C+C needed ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/462992/4537230.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/462992/4537230.page GMT Id say go for Tau because of the mobility and flexibility as well as railguns. Also to fill the last 9 points give the broadside team leader, crisis team leader, and fire warrior team leader a blacksun filter each (Assuming you join hq onto crisis suit squad)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/462992/4537489.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/462992/4537489.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/462992/4537716.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/462992/4537716.page GMT
I would probably go fireknife configuration on the crisis team. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/462992/4537781.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/462992/4537781.page GMT
First, your iridium armor will slow down your crisis suits significantly when he joins the squad. While 2+ is tempting with the change to power weapons, your shield drones should be doing their job (leave the iridium at home).

Second, your marker light drone will inhibit your fire warrior's mobility. As the changes in rapid fire has increased the FW's mobility, you'll only get to fire the ML if they stay still. Granted you said you want a gun line but Fire Warriors aren't numerous or resilient enough to form a solid gun line without terrain or your commander suit baby sitting with sheild drones. Also, only Tau units can benefit from the effects of a marker light.

I'm also not a fan of just TL PR suits. A maximum of 3 shots at 24" feels so weak for a 3 man squad, though I usually run Helio's and it's not that much better. Just a personal preference more than anything.

p.s. I'm in favor of the Tau just because I play them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/462992/4538157.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/462992/4538157.page GMT