<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Challenges.... to fix some rare bug."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/16.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Challenges.... to fix some rare bug. ICs involved in the fight without making clumsy rules (such as in the 5th ed). It also fix some nonsense (hidden PF tactic among the others).
But as several persons have pointed out, there are some possible "bugs".
The main concern is the possibility of stoppin' a 500 points cc killing machine with the sacrifice of an humble sergeant... The problem is even worse with units such as Guard blobs that can seriously spam minor characters.
Someone thinks that there should be a "wound overflow" and actually this is an hotly debated topic in YMDC. Since I do not think that the overflow is in the spirit of the rule I suggest this home rule:

- The character accepting a challenge (not the one proposing it) can decide to allocate just some of the attacks to the challenger, allocating the rest of the attacks to the unit. However, if the challengee is not able to slay the challenger, the attacks allocated to the rest of the units are lost: The humble sergeant is not so worthless as the mighty opponent expected, and he/she is proving to be worth much more attention.

What do you think?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4564728.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4564728.page GMT Challenges.... to fix some rare bug. LGS (no carry over, no overflow). You don't want that uber kill em all IC in a challenge don't assault with him alone and/or make sure you have SGT Scrubb available to either accept or issue a challenge so the big Kahuna can hit the unit. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4564801.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4564801.page GMT Challenges.... to fix some rare bug. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4564812.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4564812.page GMT Challenges.... to fix some rare bug. cc monsters... actually the inability to operate alone can be a serious impairment to the feasibility of such models, and it's a shame IMHO.... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4564870.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4564870.page GMT Re:Challenges.... to fix some rare bug.
What about if the rule only worked for Monstrous Creatures vs Squad Leaders?
As an example, a Carnifex or Bloodthirster is going to ignore that lowly Sergeant if all he does is shout, unless he actually puts up a fight.
While someone like Skulltaker, or Calgar is going to stop and fight any challenger that stands before him.

Thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4564917.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4564917.page GMT Challenges.... to fix some rare bug.
In fantasy we have had to deal with this exact thing for years and the way around it is not issueing the challenge with the 200pt killing machine and if they issue a challenge accept it with your sarge, this allows your killing maching to do what he is meant to do and kill the enemy unit, you should not be sending the IC in by himself and if you do...thats why you get punished with the challenge rules.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4564958.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4564958.page GMT Challenges.... to fix some rare bug. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4565028.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4565028.page GMT Challenges.... to fix some rare bug. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4565250.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4565250.page GMT Challenges.... to fix some rare bug.
Tis why I love 6th.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4565261.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4565261.page GMT Challenges.... to fix some rare bug. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4565532.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4565532.page GMT Re:Challenges.... to fix some rare bug. I'm totally on board with MCs not giving to challenges.
I really, really, really fail to see how a single guardsman sergeant can stop a rampaging Carnifex, Avatar or flying Chaos Daemon Prince. That's not cinematic at all. It could be if it happened once in a while ( ), but automatically, every time, in every game, in every squad with a character? Just no.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4570790.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4570790.page GMT Re:Challenges.... to fix some rare bug. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4571193.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4571193.page GMT Re:Challenges.... to fix some rare bug. His point still stands.
I agree with Macok, something should be in there about Monsterous creatures being able to ignore challenges.
You can't back up a Bloodthirster with a unit, he's not an independent character. But he's still bogged down by challenges in combat, challenges that in all reality, he would ignore.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4578204.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4578204.page GMT Challenges.... to fix some rare bug.
White Ninja wrote:I would say that one of the best fixes would be to have any extra wounds dealt count to combat resolution. Watching your Sargent the best melee guy in the squad get reduced to mulch is likely going to hurt moral.


yes, that would be better than wound overflow.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4591871.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4591871.page GMT Challenges.... to fix some rare bug. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4596195.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/464663/4596195.page GMT