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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey Guys,<br /> <br /> I have an Ork Bommer Readily built as the Suicidal one. I have gotten rid off all Orky things and awaiting some rules (where you come in) to put some weapons and a pilot in.<br />  Thanks! <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:17:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AbbadonTD101]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So...where are the proposed rules?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:52:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Space Marine Fighter (Ork Bommer Conversion)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Here's what i had in mind:<br /> <br /> Space Marine Shrieker<br /> <br /> Type: Flyer (vehcile)<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(35);'>FA</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(434);'>SA</span> RA <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span><br />  4   11  11 11  3<br /> Equipment: Twin linked Hull-Mounted lascannon<br />                        Two wing mounted Autocannons<br />                        4 Shrieker Missiles<br /> Shrieker missiles:<br /> S    <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>        Type<br />  8     1       Heavy 1<br /> <br /> Special Rules:<br /> Power of The Machine Spirit<br /> Deep Strike<br /> Supersonic <br />                         <br />                               ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:39:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AbbadonTD101]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That would need to be really expensive... <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span>. 7 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>Ap</span> 2 blasts, and on a 2+ basically wipes out a unit thats not T5 and multi wound... ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:00:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, your rules are broken bud. Generally, you want custom rules to be a bit weaker than established stats or else people will refuse to let you field them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:21:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Changed the rules any better?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:41:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AbbadonTD101]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> say<br /> <br /> "On a turn when Suicidal Tactics are used, the vehicle no longer benefits from the 'hard to hit' rules, and is subject to a round of snapfire.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:43:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ davou]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Done the ' Overwatch' but why get rid of hard to hit he's essentially flying through a unit at almost supersonic speeds!<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Points cost?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:46:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AbbadonTD101]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Space Marine Fighter (Ork Bommer Conversion)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>AbbadonTD101 wrote:</cite>Here's what i had in mind:<br /> <br /> Space Marine Shrieker<br /> <br /> Type: Flyer (vehcile)<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(35);'>FA</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(434);'>SA</span> RA <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span><br />  4   12  12  12  3<br /> <font color='red'>Why AV10? The only flyers which have AV12 are Mantas, Thunderhawks and Valkyries.</font><br /> <br /> Equipment: Two Hull-Mounted Lascannons<br />                        Two wing mounted Autocannons<br />                        4 Shrieker Missiles<br /> <br /> Shrieker missiles:<br /> S    <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>        Type<br />  8     1       Heavy 1<br /> <br /> <font color='red'>2x Lascannons and 2x Autocannons seems a bit excessive, I would tone it down to 2x Autocannons and 1x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Las </font><br /> <br /> Special Rules:<br /> Power of The Machine Spirit<br /> Deep Strike<br /> Suicidal Tactics:<br /> Once per Movement phase the owning player can decide to deploy suicidal tactics on any unit it has passed over.<br /> The model is then subject to overwatch snap fire.<br /> Each model immeadiatly takes an initiative test or be taken as a casualty. On the roll of a 3+ but on the roll of a 1 or 2 the unit is unaffected and the model is taken as a casualty.  <br /> <font color='red'>I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous. With a 36" Flat Out move, I can pass over, for example, 3-4 mobs of Boyz/Gaunts/similar horde, be near-invulnerable from their Overwatch attacks, and then decimate the unit, because of the silly "Initiative test or DIE!!!" rule. If you want an alternative, perhaps you can say that a single unit may be fired at as if you hadn't moved, allowing you to fire the missiles without Snap-Shotting, but it would be better just removed in general.  </font><br />                         <br />                               </div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:11:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Valkyrie]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Done.... Again.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:59:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AbbadonTD101]]></author>
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