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All I can say is holy crap! Easily the best 40K novel I've ever read. ADB manages to give the Astartes character, without making them seem like frat-boys with bolters. The characters are believable, interesting, and fit the universe well. We get some lovely information on the way the universe and the GK/Inquisition in particular work, as well as some technical information about the capabilities of certain ships, warp travel/translation, and so on.

The story was compelling and character driven, really exploring the conflicts between various elements of the Imperium and the moral grey areas between what is necessary, what is right, what is easy, and what is wrong.

Loved it.

Anyone else read it?

PS - You can find it cheaper on Amazon than you'll get it from the Black Library or your local GW.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4596463.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4596463.page GMT The Emperor's Gift
...although I still have like 6 or so novels that I purchased and haven't read, though, heh.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4596467.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4596467.page GMT Re:The Emperor's Gift ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4598840.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4598840.page GMT The Emperor's Gift BL N&R thread and all agreed it's one of Black Library's best, possibly the best.
It's a brilliant novel all-round, not much more I can say than that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4602438.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4602438.page GMT The Emperor's Gift http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4603807.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4603807.page GMT Re:The Emperor's Gift GKs?

If so I don't think I'll read it.

I want more Ork books. Maybe a Tau book or 2.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4604100.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4604100.page GMT Re:The Emperor's Gift
DeffDred wrote:Are the main characters GKs?

If so I don't think I'll read it.

I want more Ork books. Maybe a Tau book or 2.


Yes. However, Inquisitors and Space Wolves feature pretty heavily.
Understandably, there are no Orks or Tau to be seen.

I'll note that I'm not a Grey Knights fan at all, but still thought it was a brilliant book.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4604135.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4604135.page GMT Re:The Emperor's Gift
DeffDred wrote:Are the main characters GKs?

If so I don't think I'll read it.

I want more Ork books. Maybe a Tau book or 2.


It's ADB, the guy who managed to make the Night Lords into somewhat relatable characters. I wouldn't discount the book just because of the chapter involved.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4604209.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4604209.page GMT Re:The Emperor's Gift
Just Dave wrote:
DeffDred wrote:Are the main characters GKs?

If so I don't think I'll read it.

I want more Ork books. Maybe a Tau book or 2.


Yes. However, Inquisitors and Space Wolves feature pretty heavily.
Understandably, there are no Orks or Tau to be seen.

I'll note that I'm not a Grey Knights fan at all, but still thought it was a brilliant book.


Hm,didn't read it...Is it better then the "Thousand sons"?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4604449.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4604449.page GMT The Emperor's Gift SW ship. I actually find it inferior to ADB's other works such as Night Lords, which felt like a real sci-fi novel series first and a tie-in to a tabletop game second.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4604775.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4604775.page GMT Re:The Emperor's Gift SW chapter didn’t increase tenfold....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4605644.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4605644.page GMT Re:The Emperor's Gift
DatrhMarko wrote:Just finished...WOW...Damn me if my love for the SW chapter didn’t increase tenfold....


lol, I gotta admit I came out of it going "Space Wolves? More like Moron Wolves." I really disagreed with them and their position throughout the novel, but I love the way ADB characterised them, not as a caricature but as well rounded individuals on the opposite end of the spectrum to the Inquisition.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4605664.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4605664.page GMT Re:The Emperor's Gift
Kaldor wrote:
DatrhMarko wrote:Just finished...WOW...Damn me if my love for the SW chapter didn’t increase tenfold....


lol, I gotta admit I came out of it going "Space Wolves? More like Moron Wolves." I really disagreed with them and their position throughout the novel, but I love the way ADB characterised them, not as a caricature but as well rounded individuals on the opposite end of the spectrum to the Inquisition.

Funny, the same thing I said about Lord Kysnaros and Grand Master Joros,what a PRICKS - btw IT takes a lot of ball's to stand up against "I" -but we can see from our pictures why we have different opinions...
And this is where enjoyed the most:
Spoiler:
‘You… You walked in the Age of the Emperor?’

Bjorn made the gear-grinding chuckle again. ‘Walked, ran, pissed and killed. I did it all. I met the Allfather, you know. Fought at his side more than once. I do believe he liked me.’
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4605685.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4605685.page GMT The Emperor's Gift GK or the First War, I found it highly entertaining and gripping. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4607930.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4607930.page GMT Re:The Emperor's Gift
Kaldor wrote:
DatrhMarko wrote:Just finished...WOW...Damn me if my love for the SW chapter didn’t increase tenfold....


lol, I gotta admit I came out of it going "Space Wolves? More like Moron Wolves." I really disagreed with them and their position throughout the novel, but I love the way ADB characterised them, not as a caricature but as well rounded individuals on the opposite end of the spectrum to the Inquisition.


That's the best thing about the book; that it's so easy to take either side in the matter.
Personally, I would've done the same thing as Logan.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4608007.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4608007.page GMT Re:The Emperor's Gift
Just Dave wrote:
Kaldor wrote:
DatrhMarko wrote:Just finished...WOW...Damn me if my love for the SW chapter didn’t increase tenfold....


lol, I gotta admit I came out of it going "Space Wolves? More like Moron Wolves." I really disagreed with them and their position throughout the novel, but I love the way ADB characterised them, not as a caricature but as well rounded individuals on the opposite end of the spectrum to the Inquisition.


That's the best thing about the book; that it's so easy to take either side in the matter.
Personally, I would've done the same thing as Logan.


Me to, and not because I'm a fanboy ofc:-),btw at the end "L" choping certain guys in specific manner -
Spoiler:
I’d never seen a warrior sprinting in Terminator warplate. He ran through the fiery mist of a teleportation storm, with no hint of the sluggishness I’d felt on Armageddon. Impossible as it was, I swore I could hear the pounding of his boots, and the screaming whine of protesting servo joints, over the ship falling apart around us. Sparks burst from every racing step he took.

I couldn’t even conceive of the power and rage it would take to force Terminator plate to react against its will like that. I fired at him. Malchadiel fired at him. Our storm bolters crashed and boomed and blasted chunks of ceramite away with no effect at all.
priceless]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4608140.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4608140.page GMT The Emperor's Gift http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4608160.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4608160.page GMT Re:The Emperor's Gift

Spoiler:
Did anyone else see it was Zael from the Ravenor series? I thought that was an awesome thing to do, really gave the Grey Knight character because you really felt sorry for Zael in the Ravenor books.
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Thamor wrote:The best bit had to be the battle with Angron.


Spoiler:
Did anyone else see it was Zael from the Ravenor series? I thought that was an awesome thing to do, really gave the Grey Knight character because you really felt sorry for Zael in the Ravenor books.


Yeah, I liked that too and its nod to the work of another author, but please spoiler that part!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4608628.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4608628.page GMT The Emperor's Gift
Just Dave wrote:We were discussing The Emperor's Gift in the BL N&R thread and all agreed it's one of Black Library's best, possibly the best.
It's a brilliant novel all-round, not much more I can say than that.


That good huh? I wasn't going to pick it up when I saw it was hard back myself.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4608681.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4608681.page GMT The Emperor's Gift Aaron Dembski-Bowden is a notoriously good Black Library author these days and Reds8n said "I've read ...ooohh.... 96%+ of all the 40K books (he probably has) and this one stands triumphantly above them all."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4608739.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4608739.page GMT Re:The Emperor's Gift
1. I'm growing a little weary of the constant nihilism in ADB's works. I understand that the WH40K-verse is supposed to be supremely grimdark and nothing ever really matters and there are no rules and you can do whatever, but I feel that it kind of detracts from the story. I don't want to spoil anything from the story so I won't list examples, but a lot of times it feels to me like the "/shrug" that's constantly in the story detracts from it.

Also, Anika. God damn. When she was first described to me in the story, I fell in love. A female Fenrisian Inquisitor? Hell yeah!

... and then she turns out to be whiny, impulsive, sentimental, and everything an Inquisitor basically isn't supposed to be. Her irrationality gets people killed, and instead of being a badass she-wolf her entire reason for existing within the story is to basically be Hyperior's moral compass. We don't even get to see her fight.

Very disappointing. And another thing, can I pleeeease have just one woman in 40K who isn't either having an affair with a dude or in love with him? Seriously, I understand that the men seem to not know how to develop a female character without using a relationship as the crux, but it's not that hard.

Patience Kys is probably my favorite female in the mythos, for that reason.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4610119.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/466558/4610119.page GMT