Omegus wrote:Absolutely not. The Emperor was a one-off creation by the amalgamation of a bunch of Shaman souls. while it's conceivable that some of the souls decided they would go off on their own and form their own gestalt consciousness, there is absolutely nothing in the fluff that even remotely hints at such a possibility.

chromedog wrote:Given that ALL of the great shamans got together to sacrifice themselves so that their essence could go into ONE pure being - I seriously doubt he has a brother (even a "Twins" style brother who only got the crap bits) so precedent or otherwise, I'd say "NO".

Some fanwank fluff makes me WANT to read CS Goto instead. At least there I know the stupidity and lameness has an end.

Omegus wrote:That Stardust Empire website confuses me, as it seems to have all of the races working in concert to defend it, including Space Marines, Chaos Marines, Orks and Eldar all working side-by-side in the same squads (wtf?), while Tyranids patrol the outskirts (double wtf)??

DarthMarko wrote:Wait whaaat???Like Anti-emperor:-)

paulyf wrote:Didn't anyone else get the feeling from know no fear that once apon a time the emperor had some hugely powerful mates who used to run around with him? Can't remember names but that guy who used the sacraficial knife to open a hole in reality and the guy who talked to him. No brother though

Grey Templar wrote: They intensely anti-authority(for whatever reason)

Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:

DarthMarko wrote:Wait whaaat???Like Anti-emperor:-)

I don't understand where the name comes from.

He says that it's supposed to be him in the game. That would probably explain his wife "Fatima."


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Spartan089 wrote:I took a quick peek at the link and the OP should be ashamed for even making this topic. I've read better written stories by five year olds. In no way should this theory be lent credence if that is all that is backing it up.

That's not my story BTW. I am not defending the Stardust Empire. I am slighly interested in seeing if people have advice I can give the writer to make it fit better, but that's pretty much a lost cause.

Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:He also reads the Wikia Warhammer 40,000 Wiki, which is basically fanfiction and defends it by saying it's very well written and extensive; doesn't see the reason it's extensive because people are making it up.

Lynata wrote:

Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:He also reads the Wikia Warhammer 40,000 Wiki, which is basically fanfiction and defends it by saying it's very well written and extensive; doesn't see the reason it's extensive because people are making it up.

For good or for bad, that's how the entire franchise works. There's no real difference between, say, a BL novel or such fanfiction. Well, apart from the latter being available for free.

Never heard of the Emperor having a brother in any of the licensed material, though. I think it would be possible to write a story like that (perhaps using Chaos and the Warp), but obviously one would have to be rather careful how to explain that, if he wants people to buy into it. From how it is presented in this thread, it sadly doesn't sound as if the author of the linked material did exercise the necessary amount of caution and autocriticism to focus his creativity into less ... queer channels.

An idea off the top of my head:
At some point during the Great Crusade, Chaos attempts to displace the Emperor like they did it with the Primarchs, but as the Emperor is able to defend himself the ritual goes awry and Tzeentch instead creates a "mirror image" of the Emperor, who is then imprisoned within the Warp but manages to break free many millennia later. Since this mirror image is but a shade of the original Emps and has been tortured by the gods for quite some time, he is much weaker than the original and cannot even remember much of his past. Not exactly a brother, but could work as a "Dark Emperor", especially given that the time in the Warp would serve as an explanation for how his character was twisted (assuming the cliché'd "Dark" prefix hints at something evil).
Alternatively, it was a cloned body of the Emperor as a byproduct of his genetical engineering program, a "vessel" that He wanted to keep as backup if He ever gets seriously injured. The irony obviously being that Chaos still scores a relative "win" in this scenario as they manage to prevent the Emperor from resurrecting, so that the Imperium instead has to improvise with the Golden Throne since the clone was stolen.
If it absolutely has to be a "true" brother, perhaps this could be done with a real human sibling that was spirited away many, many millennia in humanity's distant past, using the very same ritual as above. Perhaps the Emperor "deflected" the kidnapping attempt by rerouting it towards that long-dead natural brother, using the bond between the two as an ersatz-anchor for the spell.

It's all a bit zany, but I suppose you have to pull stuff like this in order to explain it in any way.

Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:Unfortunately, I'm not sure he really understands how far out some of his stuff is, and how some elements of it can never really ever be reconciled with the canon.

Harriticus wrote:Emperor was born to mortal parents in Central Anatolia in the 8th Millennium B.C.. I imagine he had normal brothers and sisters as well, but they died mortal as like his parents they lacked his gift.

As for the Sensei, they more or less have been deleted from fluff. Expect to never hear of them again. Stuff about them on 40k wiki is mostly fanfiction, a problem that wikipedia in general has.

Harriticus wrote:Emperor was born to mortal parents in Central Anatolia in the 8th Millennium B.C.

Sir Samuel Buca wrote:I'm a firm believer in the fact that the Emperor would have had siblings, enough so that I've convinced myself that Malcador was probably His brother. Many people seem to disagree, but we have no real 'canon' here, so it's up for debate.
What we do know, as has been mentioned above, is that right now, 2012, the Emperor is 10,000 years old, around 8000BC, there wasn't really any contraception, lots of people would live in large family groups, so it may be safe to assume that He did have mortal siblings. It could be like the whole Jesus Christ thing, so much evidence to say that he did have siblings (Even some pointing to Judas as his actual brother), yet so much covered up in 2000 years to turn him into a divine being. Imagine how much could be covered up in almost 50,000 years from birth.
The real answer is that, whilst we can speculate, and that both sides of the argument will continue to raise valid points, we simply do not, and cannot know.

DeffDred wrote:

Harriticus wrote:Emperor was born to mortal parents in Central Anatolia in the 8th Millennium B.C.

Where is this written?

ChaosGalvatron wrote:The emperor might have had siblings, but they would have been normal humans and died 8k bc.

Grey Templar wrote:
The Sensei havn't been deleted from the fluff. They are still a canon part of the backstory. GW just hasn't touched on the subject in forever(cause it doesn't sell models)