broodstar wrote:I've had this thought bouncing around for awhile after frustrations with 40k 's AP system.

Basically your model has 5 stats: (maybe more)

Strength - Modifies how much damage the model does in melee.
Dexterity - Modifies how much damage the model does with Ranged weapons.
Intellect - Modifies how much damage the model does with spells.
Armor Class - How high you have to roll to do damage to the model.
Hit Points - How much damage the model can take before it dies.

Every weapon has 3 stats:

Range - How far the model can fire the weapon.
Strength - How much damage the weapon does.
Armor Penatration - Modifies the defenders Armor Class.

So basically, every attack hit, then you roll a die to see if the attack penatrated the target armor / natural hide, then you roll a die to see how much damage you do.

Any questions or comments I'd be happy to answer. I'd like to know if this has a chance for community backing.

Vladsimpaler wrote:
Sounds like the old Star Wars Miniatures game/Dungeons and Dragons miniature skirmish game that WotC had going for a while, mixed with a little bit of 40k. Could use some work but I'd be interested in seeing what's going on. Always glad to see another fresh faced designer enter the fray!

broodstar wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:
Sounds like the old Star Wars Miniatures game/Dungeons and Dragons miniature skirmish game that WotC had going for a while, mixed with a little bit of 40k. Could use some work but I'd be interested in seeing what's going on. Always glad to see another fresh faced designer enter the fray!

Yeah, the D&D PandP RPG uses the d20 system. I like the idea that a weapon could modify your defense but couldn't remove it completely. I hate the 40k "because I have an AP-5 weapon and you're armour 6+ there is nothing you can do about it"

Vladsimpaler wrote:
Haha fair enough! Yeah in a system I made (I don't want to link it because I'm in the process of trying to get it all together and I may want to copyright some parts) I have it kind of the opposite. Like as much as never removing defenses made sense, I always thought it was weird that a lascannon would sometimes fail to kill a grot. So there are some weapons that are so powerful that they just instantly remove models because they're so strong.

But hey, if there's a will there's a way. And where there is nothing, you need make the inspiration. Good luck man.

Absolutionis wrote:It's also basically how Infinity works.

broodstar wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:
Haha fair enough! Yeah in a system I made (I don't want to link it because I'm in the process of trying to get it all together and I may want to copyright some parts) I have it kind of the opposite. Like as much as never removing defenses made sense, I always thought it was weird that a lascannon would sometimes fail to kill a grot. So there are some weapons that are so powerful that they just instantly remove models because they're so strong.

But hey, if there's a will there's a way. And where there is nothing, you need make the inspiration. Good luck man.

That was another thing I had problems with. You mean to tell me that with this gigantic cannon the guy I shot didn't only survived, but no damage was done to him.

Another one was, I'm a highly train Marine Corps Sniper with a scope, and if I roll a 2 or less we basically say "He can't shoot for gak". I don't know the average accuracy rate for a real Sniper, but I'm betting it's pretty damn high! If there is a real Sniper reading this could you please give me an estmate of your hits ratio? I'm going to guess that you don't miss 33% of the time.

notprop wrote:
As much as we might imagine it no to be the case even good snipers are not necessarily one shot one kill as a FPS might have us believe. This is particularly true at long and extreme ranges or why else have a spotter - if not to spot where rounds land (as well as direct fire).

Absolutionis wrote:It's also basically how Infinity works.

Strength = CC
Dexterity = BS
Intellect = WIP
Armor Class = ARM
Hit Points = W

There are also additional stats PH (physique) for climb/jump checks and BTS (biotechnological shield) which is essentially a fortitude save.

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As for weapons:

Range = Infinity weapons have 4 range intervals
Strength = Damage
Armor Penetration = Part of the special ammuntion

There are also additional stats for Burst (number of shots per action), susceptibility to EMP damage, ability to use in CC, and area of effect.