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				<description><![CDATA[ <b>1 Daemon Prince</b>, 150 pts Mark of Nurgle; Psyker; Wings <br /> <br /> <b>1 Daemon Prince</b>, 150 pts Mark of Nurgle; Psyker; Wings<br /> <br /> <b>6 Plague Marines</b>, 286 pts Personal Icon, Plasma gun x2<br /> Plague Champion w/ Power Fist; Plasma Pistol<br /> Rhino<br /> <br /> <b>6 Plague Marines</b>, 286 pts Personal Icon, Plasma gun x2<br /> Plague Champion w/ Power Fist; Plasma Pistol<br /> Rhino<br /> <br /> <b>3 Obliterator Cult</b>, 225 pts<br /> <br /> <b>3 Obliterator Cult</b>, 225 pts<br /> <br /> <b>3 Chaos Terminators</b>, 175 pts Icon of Nurgle<br /> Power Fist x3; Combi-plasma x3<br /> <br /> 1497 total<br /> <br /> The idea here is to run the rhinos up and deep strike everything else on the personal icons. I have had bad luck in the past trying to get reserves in, but with everything coming in on 3+ now I feel like the forthcoming turn two shooting phase will be a truly special thing. i'll be rolling on pyromancy for both princes, hoping for spontaneous combustion. This should be a fun and annoying Sunday afternoon list. Comments and criticism welcome!<br /> PLASMUH! PLASMUH! PLASMUH!<br /> <br /> I may have to sculpt a EWJ plague marine, if this list wrecks face like I hope it will.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<title>Re:1500 pt CSM Earthworm Jim List (because they are worm-ridden Plague Marines, with tons of plasma!)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ List looks good. If you want the Princes to take a Psychic power from the 6th edition rulebook, you need to have a power to replace. Meaning, take the cheapest codex power (Doombolt, 10 points) and then replace it with a book power, most likely from Telepathy. Or for 15 points, you could get Nurgle Rot - great for sliding right into the middle of his Troops units and nuking everything within 6" (well....nuking might be a strong term, hehe).<br /> <br /> The Plague Marine Squads look good, but I think I would run 7 of them (for fluff and durability).<br /> <br /> I also think running only two Squads of Troops at 1500 points is a mistake. The general rule of thumb is one Troop Squad for every 500 points, so another Squad of Plague Marines (or even <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>) is sorely needed. To me, the Terminators are the first thing I would drop. Spending 40 points to give 3 models Mark of Nurgle is too expensive.<br /> <br /> My recommendation would be to drop the Termies, and drop 1 Oblits from each Squad.<br /> <br /> The modified list would look something like this:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> 1 Daemon Prince, 160 pts Mark of Nurgle; Psyker, Doombolt; Wings <br /> <br /> 1 Daemon Prince, 160 pts Mark of Nurgle; Psyker, Doombolt; Wings <br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 7 Plague Marines, 271 pts; Plasma gun x2; Rhino<br /> Plague Champion w/ Power Fist; Plasma PIstol; Personal Icon<br /> <br /> 7 Plague Marines, 271 pts; Plasma gun x2; Rhino<br /> Plague Champion w/ Power Fist; Plasma PIstol; Personal Icon<br /> <br /> 7 Plague Marines, 271 pts; Plasma gun x2; Rhino<br /> Plague Champion w/ Power Fist; Plasma PIstol; Personal Icon<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> 2 Obliterator Cult, 150 pts <br /> <br /> 2 Obliterator Cult, 150 pts <br /> <br /> 1478 total<br /> <br /> Spend the last 22 points on Pintle-mounted Combi-Plasmas for your attacking Rhinos, or buy one Havoc Launcher for your Defensive Rhino.<br /> <br /> As always, just my 2¢. Hope it helps.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Sep 2012 06:33:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mizzri]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 pt CSM Earthworm Jim List (because they are worm-ridden Plague Marines, with tons of plasma!)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Mizzri wrote:</cite>List looks good. If you want the Princes to take a Psychic power from the 6th edition rulebook, you need to have a power to replace.</div></blockquote><br /> I was doing that initially when 6th ed hit, and someone told me it was wrong. So yeah ten more points is an easy fix.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>The Plague Marine Squads look good, but I think I would run 7 of them (for fluff and durability).</div></blockquote><br /> 6 plus a champion is 7. That's the way I had paid for it in the initial listing, not 6 with a champion upgrade. It's in the points.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>I also think running only two Squads of Troops at 1500 points is a mistake. The general rule of thumb is one Troop Squad for every 500 points, so another Squad of Plague Marines (or even <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>) is sorely needed. To me, the Terminators are the first thing I would drop. Spending 40 points to give 3 models Mark of Nurgle is too expensive.</div></blockquote><br /> For a friendly game at home it wouldn't be so bad, but I think you're right. I'll get more bang for my buck with another unit of Plague Marines.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>My recommendation would be to drop the Termies, and drop 1 Oblits from each Squad.</div></blockquote><br /> Termies will be dropped. Going to fiddle with the oblits as well and see what I can shake out.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>The modified list would look something like this:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> 1 Daemon Prince, 160 pts Mark of Nurgle; Psyker, Doombolt; Wings <br /> <br /> 1 Daemon Prince, 160 pts Mark of Nurgle; Psyker, Doombolt; Wings <br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 7 Plague Marines, 271 pts; Plasma gun x2; Rhino<br /> Plague Champion w/ Power Fist; Plasma PIstol; Personal Icon<br /> <b><font color='red'>**I'm getting 286 pts out of this via both calculator/codex and army builder. Don't know what you're doing wrong here**</font></b><br /> 7 Plague Marines, 271 pts; Plasma gun x2; Rhino<br /> Plague Champion w/ Power Fist; Plasma PIstol; Personal Icon<br /> <br /> 7 Plague Marines, 271 pts; Plasma gun x2; Rhino<br /> Plague Champion w/ Power Fist; Plasma PIstol; Personal Icon<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> 2 Obliterator Cult, 150 pts <br /> <br /> 2 Obliterator Cult, 150 pts <br /> <br /> 1478 total<br /> <br /> Spend the last 22 points on Pintle-mounted Combi-Plasmas for your attacking Rhinos, or buy one Havoc Launcher for your Defensive Rhino.<br /> <br /> As always, just my 2¢. Hope it helps.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Here's the amended list, coincidentally with all of your suggested changes <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> . I made a 2k list earlier that already had the termies dropped and sports 3x3 oblits as well.<br /> <br /> 1 Daemon Prince, 160 pts<br />    Wings; Mark of Nurgle; Doombolt<br /> <br /> 1 Daemon Prince, 160 pts<br />    Wings; Mark of Nurgle; Doombolt<br /> <br /> 6 Plague Marines, 296 pts <br />    Personal Icon; Plasma gun x2<br />    1 Plague Champion w/ Power Fist; Plasma Pistol<br />    1 Rhino w/combi-plasma<br /> <br /> 6 Plague Marines, 296 pts <br />    Personal Icon; Plasma gun x2<br />    1 Plague Champion w/ Power Fist; Plasma Pistol<br />    1 Rhino w/combi-plasma<br /> <br /> 6 Plague Marines, 286 pts <br />    Personal Icon; Plasma gun x2<br />    1 Plague Champion w/ Power Fist; Plasma Pistol<br />    1 Rhino<br /> <br /> 2 Obliterator Cult, 150 pts<br /> <br /> 2 Obliterator Cult, 150 pts]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Sep 2012 07:14:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Your math is correct. 286 points. Not sure where I went wrong. Probably didn't add the Plasma Pistol for the Champ. My bad &gt;.&lt;]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Sep 2012 07:27:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mizzri]]></author>
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