<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Corsairs and Dark Eldar"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/31.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Corsairs and Dark Eldar http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4748448.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4748448.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar DE and eldar.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4749224.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4749224.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar
 Tadashi wrote:
Corsairs are supposed to be outcasts from Craftworld Eldar society, so are they welcomed by the Dark Eldar (who are technically 'outcasts' as far as the Craftworld Eldar are concerned)? Since they still have psychic powers, they obviously won't be welcomed into Commoragh, but would the Dark Eldar consider Corsairs as 'one of them'?

1.) Corsairs are not all outcasts, many are corsairs from birth or choice.
2.) Corsairs don't follow paths, so have as much psychic powers as Dark Eldar.
3.) For outsiders, differences between Corsairs and Dark Eldar are difficult to tell, as both do pirate raids and are not part of craftworld societies.
4.) Dark Eldar have very weak concepts of "welcome" and "unity". But they acknowledge that all Eldar belong to one race, even if not part of their specific cabal.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4749678.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4749678.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4749949.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4749949.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar
 Kroothawk wrote:

2.) Corsairs don't follow paths, so have as much psychic powers as Dark Eldar.


Source, please? Last I looked, Rangers don't follow the Paths, and they still have psychic powers. And Prince Yriel certainly had enough power to use that Lance of Longinus analog on his return, even after abandoning Iyanden out of outrage. In fact, IIRC, the only reason Dark Eldar don't have psychic powers is not because they don't follow the Paths, but rather their powers atropied from unuse.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4750933.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4750933.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar As far as they are concerned, Eldar are the outcasts, floating along in little ships forever running away and denying themselves.

In my opinion Dark Eldar would 'welcome' Corsairs just as much as any other group of Eldar, perhaps slightly more just because their style is closer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4751087.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4751087.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar
 Tadashi wrote:
Source, please? Last I looked, Rangers don't follow the Paths, and they still have psychic powers. And Prince Yriel certainly had enough power to use that Lance of Longinus analog on his return, even after abandoning Iyanden out of outrage. In fact, IIRC, the only reason Dark Eldar don't have psychic powers is not because they don't follow the Paths, but rather their powers atropied from unuse.

1.) The aspect shrines are on the craftworlds. Eldar leaving craftworlds leave the infrastructure and "masters", so at best may have their path on sleeping mode, so basically pausing on their path without walking it. Yriel did so, and not for a very long time.
2.) On Rangers: The Gav Thorpe triology makes it clear that Rangers also follow a path.

3.) Yes, all Eldar have a potential for minor psychic abilities. The use is taboo in the webway for obvious reasons.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4752016.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4752016.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar
 Kroothawk wrote:

2.) On Rangers: The Gav Thorpe triology makes it clear that Rangers also follow a path.


Its called a 'Path', but only in name. In fact, the whole point of becoming a Ranger is to escape the stifling control of the Eldar Paths and to allow the individual's spirit to soar to unlimited heights and be all he/she can be without restraint.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4752028.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4752028.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar
Corsairs vary quite a bit, but they are known to help or get help from the Dark Eldar (Imperial Armour XI), usually in exchange for slaving rights (for the Dark Eldar). Some of them may be used as literal Corsairs of a Craftworld, where the Craftworld won't be involved for political reasons.

There are battle psykers that go with Corsairs, and others mainly as navigators or guides for the ships but they are strong enough to be represented on tabletop so will be at least Warlock level.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4752434.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4752434.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar
 Tadashi wrote:
Its called a 'Path', but only in name.

It is called a path, because it IS a path. Rangers are still part of the craftworld, returning frequently. When they return, they are treated as normal craftworld Eldar. And there is no problem to opt for another path after that. But I agree, it is a path granting more freedoms than many other paths.

Here a quote from IA11: The Doom of Mymeara:
An Eldar Corsair is more akin to the Eldar before the Fall than those who now live upon the Craftworlds. Not for them are the highly disciplined paths trod by their Craftworld kin, although many may turn to them once their need to explore the galaxy and all that it has to offer has been satiated. That is though if they have not completely turned in their lot with their dark kin who dwell in the depths of Commorragh.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4753320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4753320.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar DE don't have psychic power is because they deliberately stifle them to hide from She Who Thirsts. However, Corsairs are definitely a different group to DE.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4753686.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4753686.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar
 Kroothawk wrote:
 Tadashi wrote:
Its called a 'Path', but only in name.

It is called a path, because it IS a path. Rangers are still part of the craftworld, returning frequently. When they return, they are treated as normal craftworld Eldar. And there is no problem to opt for another path after that. But I agree, it is a path granting more freedoms than many other paths.

Here a quote from IA11: The Doom of Mymeara:
An Eldar Corsair is more akin to the Eldar before the Fall than those who now live upon the Craftworlds. Not for them are the highly disciplined paths trod by their Craftworld kin, although many may turn to them once their need to explore the galaxy and all that it has to offer has been satiated. That is though if they have not completely turned in their lot with their dark kin who dwell in the depths of Commorragh.


No, its not! How many times must I say it, its only a Path in name. A Path is designed to teach discipline and self-control, but outcasts/rangers don't have any - they are free to do and act as they please.

The Path of the Outcast is what is considered as outside the Eldar Path. Those who desert the Eldar Path are known as Outcasts and follow the Path of the Outcast.


See what I mean? Its outside the Paths, and is just one for the sake of naming convenience.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4754546.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4754546.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4766853.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4766853.page GMT Re:Corsairs and Dark Eldar
As for who would welcome the corsairs..

The Craftworld Eldar would thank them for their help if they offered it in a battle, but would be somewhat wary of the "band of hooligans" with space ships and guns.

The True-Kin would deal with them, if they are strong, or ignore them/prey on them if they are weak. When they become a threat.. annex or obliterate them. Then again.. the desires of Archons are fickle things indeed. I hear a Corsair fortress spire filled with the glass figures of thousands of Eldar would be fashionable this time of year to park above my spire....

The poor things probably don't even have a good counter to the Glass-Plague their "latest member" happened to carry on board with him...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4770831.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4770831.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar "A Ranger is an Eldar who has decided to leave their Craftworld and the Eldar Path, choosing instead to follow the Path of the Outcast in favour of seeking excitement and adventure in the open galaxy. "
From Lexicanum]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4770972.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4770972.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar
 Kroothawk wrote:
 Tadashi wrote:
Its called a 'Path', but only in name.

It is called a path, because it IS a path.]
Arguing semantics is pretty lame. It's the difference between "Path" and "path". I mean, you can call pretty much anything a path. I follow a path to work every day. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4771752.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4771752.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar
So rangers desert the Eldar Path and go on a path of their own little rebellion. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4772774.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4772774.page GMT Corsairs and Dark Eldar The Corsair are Eldar that follow the way the eldar lived before the birth of Slannesh, meaning they gain pleasure and meaningful satisfaction from raiding, battle, and trade (whether its human, Eldar, other alien races, weapons, foods and so on to dark eldar as well as other craftworld and planets).
The three are distinctly different if you take the time to read that book. Pretty good btw imo.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4809745.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/475297/4809745.page GMT