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				<description><![CDATA[ I am saying anti-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> because I will be using it against my bud's Grey Knights next week, not because the list is optimized in that direction necessarily. He is starting to get really crafty with the core units in that army, and I've lost my last two games to them pretty badly, although I killed Draigo on turn 2 both times (twinclaw <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> Marshal in terminator armor with Furious charge, probably the most efficient thing I've used in 5th). He normally brings two purifier squads with psycannons, Crowe, Draigo, 3-6 Paladins, a Dreadknight and two Dreadnoughts with lascannons, and uses 2 halberds+a mix of other <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>ccws</span> in each squad. Any advice is welcome, except telling me I am 5 points away from switching the Captain for Pedro and making the Sternguard scoring; Pedro is awesome, but I am going with a different thing in this one.<br /> <br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> Master of the Forge (harness, poweraxe, stormbolter)<br /> accompanied by Command squad (x3 stormshields, powerfist)<br /> in a Razorback (twin lascannon, stormbolter, hkm)<br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> Captain (artificer, relic blade, stormshield, digital lasers)<br /> * TR Scouts, five-strong (shotgun, h.bolter, sniper rifle, x2 blades, melta bombs, teleport homer)<br /> in a Razorback (twin lascannon, stormbolter, hkm)<br /> * TR Scouts, five-strong (shotgun, h.bolter, powerfist+shotgun, x2 blades)<br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(555);'>EL</span> Sternguard, five-strong (plascannon, missile launcher)<br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(555);'>EL</span> Terminators, ten-strong (chainfist, cyclone, heavy flamer)<br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> Ironclad (seismic hammer, two heavy flamers, assault launchers, hkm)<br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> Ironclad (seismic hammer, hurricane+meltagun, assault launchers, hkm)<br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> Vindicator with brother-sergeant Chronus (extra stormbolter, dozer blade)<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:46:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ PeterPotamus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like it<br /> <br /> Will want to protect those troops<br /> <br /> Dont think you can take razor on scouts]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:37:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Loricatus Aurora]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5109826d4ae5c1e1a0c7765068728462.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/477454/4786883.page"><b>PeterPotamus wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> Master of the Forge (harness, poweraxe, stormbolter)<br /> <font color='yellow'>dont really need an axe if you have the harness, I'd take a maul instead. and keep the pistol over the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span> </font><br /> accompanied by Command squad (x3 stormshields, powerfist)<br /> in a Razorback (twin lascannon, stormbolter, hkm)<br /> <font color='yellow'>I dont like command squads, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span> points are better used elsewhere. also drop all HKMs their not worth the points. also storm bolters are fairly useless on razors, so drop those aswell </font><br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> Captain (artificer, relic blade, stormshield, digital lasers)<br /> <font color='yellow'>I really dislike captains/unnamed masters. I'd drop him all together, maybe get a libby (hood would be nice, or points for other things to out number him a little more) </font><br /> * TR Scouts, five-strong (shotgun, h.bolter, sniper rifle, x2 blades, melta bombs, teleport homer)<br /> in a Razorback (twin lascannon, stormbolter, hkm)<br /> <font color='yellow'>scouts do not have the option to buy transports.  and I wouldnt mix weapons, if you have a melee squad I'd only mix shotguns and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>&<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> scouts. teleport homor is kinda iff aswell if youd wanna <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> closer to the enemey</font><br /> * TR Scouts, five-strong (shotgun, h.bolter, powerfist+shotgun, x2 blades)<br /> <font color='yellow'>I'd drop the heavy bolter for another shotgun. and maybe buy 2 of those scout speeder transports </font><br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(555);'>EL</span> Sternguard, five-strong (plascannon, missile launcher)<br /> <font color='yellow'>these guys are best moving up or in a pod <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span>, but if you do wanna keep them back at least bring pedro to let them score and do dual of the same weapon, since vs <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> maybe 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PC</span>, but I like dual <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> </font><br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(555);'>EL</span> Terminators, ten-strong (chainfist, cyclone, heavy flamer)<br /> <font color='yellow'>is this 10 man? if so, I'd go dual cyclone, flamers wont hurt <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>/power armor much </font><br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> Ironclad (seismic hammer, two heavy flamers, assault launchers, hkm)<br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> Ironclad (seismic hammer, hurricane+meltagun, assault launchers, hkm)<br /> <font color='yellow'> I dunno about these guys, points seem better on some other stuff, or atleast possibly put them in pods (if you have 3 so they both drop in turn 1)</font><br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> Vindicator with brother-sergeant Chronus (extra stormbolter, dozer blade)<br /> <font color='yellow'>chronus is really bad, especially on vindicators, I mean 50-70pts to scatter one less inch? lame <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> </font><br /> </div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:10:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BewareOfTom]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Tom he specifically said no Pedro<br /> <br /> Im a big fan of no named characters<br /> <br /> Unshakeable vindicator would be ok although i think he would be best in a autocannon heavybolter sponson pred with extra stormbolter for 10 shots using his high <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span><br /> <br /> I agree if your taking 10 terms to take two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CMLs</span>, they are very very good]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:04:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Loricatus Aurora]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2000pts Space Marines anti-GK list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I thought the other purpose of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(384);'>MOTF</span> was to take conversion beamer. Stick him in the bolstered ruin with the scouts and fire away. That's a Paladin killer by itself.<br /> <br /> I'd like an aegis defence line in there with the cannon in case of stormravens.<br /> <br /> Why no pods for the ironclads?<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:39:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ruminator]]></author>
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