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Avengers setup:

Table MUST have at least 1 3 story or greater building with a central objective. table should preferably be a cityscape, though this is not always necessary.

At the top of this building will be a portal through which the attackers must deploy.

Attackers get 2000 points, and all attacking units have endless swarm/without number (a damaged squad can be "destroyed", removed from the table, and returned into reserve)

Defenders get 1200 points, though they must take the following 5 characters at no additional point cost:
The Legend:
WS6 BS5 S4 T4 W3 I5 A4 LD10 Sv4+

Rules:
Feel no Pain
Inspiring: has "and they shall know no fear" and conveys "and they shall know no fear" to any units within 12"
Fleet
Living Legend: rites of battle but only for units with LoS

Weapon:
Shield: 2 handed melee weapon, conveys 4++ sv and can be used as a ranged weapon with profile S4 AP6 Rg12" pinning Assault 1, note that any model hit by the shield in melee or range strikes at I1 on its next turn.


The Beast
WS4 BS2 S8 T5 W3 I5 A6 LD10 Sv3+ 5++

Rules
Deus ex Hulkina: The beast may always run 6" towards the nearest enemy character, vehicle, or HQ. This does not apply to characters or HQs implanted in squads
Monstrous Creature
Rampaging engine of destruction: Should the Beast have just successfully destroyed a unit in CC (hero, squad, vehicle or otherwise) he may choose to immediately fire a single ranged attack at the following profile: S8 AP5 Rg 36" Pinning, Assault 1
Feel no Pain
Jump Pack
Rage
Rampage
Hatred: Everything (He gets hatred against all enemy models)

The Hawk
WS4 BS10 S3 T3 W2 I3 A2 LD10 Sv5+

Rules:
Eye in the sky: any unit that the hawk has LoS to can be treated as being in LoS for the purposes of barrage and blast weapons
Agile: The hawk has a 5++ save in CC
Stealth
IC
Pilot: The hawk may elect to pilot any models with "skimmer" or "flyer" type. Should he do so, the vehicle gains his BS and the "fast" type in addition to its other types. should the vehicle wreck, immoblize, or explode, he is treated as a passenger, and suffers all the normal effects a passenger would in such a vehicle. Should he pilot the vehicle, he may not leave it while it is still operational. Should it become immobilized he may elect to leave it, disembarking and counting the vehicle as a wreck.

Weapon:
The Bow: fires with any of the following profiles:
S4 Ap4 rg 24" Assault3
S6 Ap4 rg 48" Heavy 1
S3 AP- rg 24" Assault 1 Small blast
S3 AP- rg 12" Heavy 1 Large blast


The Assassin
WS6 BS4 S3 T3 W2 I4 A4 LD10 Sv5+

Rules:
IC
Stealth
Master fighter: The assassin has a 5++ save in CC
Hand to Hand Tazing: If a model suffers a wound against the Assassin in CC and survives, it strikes at I1 next round
Backstab: should the assassin engage a squad that is already in CC, all her attacks auto hit. roll for damage normally
Combat pragmatist: Should the assassin kill a model in CC, she may elect to strike with all future attacks using the melee weapon of that model. The assassin may use only one melee weapon at a time, should she obtain another, the previous one is discarded. Also, any squad she joins may fire a special or heavy weapon at her BS (as she uses the weapon herself)
Sabotage: The Assassin is treated as having Melta bombs and adds +1 to her vehicle damage rolls
Weapons:
TL Pistols: S3 AP- Rg12" Assault 2

The God
WS7 BS4 S5 T5 W3 I4 A4 LD10 Sv3+ 4++

Rules:
Fearless
Jump Pack
Feel no Pain
Eternal Warrior

Weapon:
Mjolnir: Mjolnir is a thunder hammer, however it may strike at The god's initiative instead of I1. it also has a ranged profile as follows:
S8 AP3 Rg36" Assault 6

The Inventor
WS3 BS5 S4 T4 W3 I3 A1 LD10 Sv2+ 4++

Rules:
True flight: The inventor may move freely over any intervening terrain, and may end or start his movement in difficult or dangerous terrain without any respective tests. He may also elect to move as though he possesses either the jetpack or Jump pack profile. However, he may only use one profile per turn. Should he choose to move with either profile, he still doesn't have to take any dangerous terrain tests. In addition, when using either movement profile, he may elect to move 3d6 instead of the standard movement profile
Relentless
AI aim assist: The inventor may fire up to 3 weapons per turn

Weapons:
2xRepulsors: S4 AP4 Rg 18" Assault1
Missile Pod: S7 AP4 Rg 36" Assault 4
Chest RT: S5 AP4 Rg12" Heavy1
Sabo Rounds: S2 AP4 Rg 24" Assault 6 single use
2xHand Laser: S7 AP2 Rg 24" Heavy1

The Inventor may forgo firing any weapons to fire his Chest RT:
S9 AP3 Rg36" Heavy 1, Melta

Defenders may also not use any HQ or Elites choices.

The portal is an immobilized open topped vehicle with armor 12 on all faces. It has 8 Hull points.

All defending forces must deploy in reserve except for the five characters, who may deploy up to 12 inches from a table edge. Attacking forces may deploy up to 8" in radius around the central portal building. The game type is annihilation. Should the portal be destroyed, attacking forces lose without number/endless swarm and can no longer deploy forces to the table. Should all defending forces be destroyed, the attackers win. Each hero who falls counts for 2 victory points instead of 1.

What do y'all think? I'd like to try it with some friends.

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possible suggestions:

Plot armor: At each new turn roll a D3+1, this is how many rerolls that are available to the six avengers (D3+1 rerolls total for the team, not for each avenger).

Maybe give the legend’s shield concussive; both for thrown attack and melee.

The assassins would benefit from a backstab or sabotage vehicle rule.

I would also consider changing the point values to:
Attacker: 1500 points
Defender 1000 points plus avengers.

Just to balance out the mission as it feels weighted against the avengers, by my estimate.
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Also, cumulatively the avengers cost 840 pts based on comparisons to similar characters among the newest codecies, so I figured 2000 to 1200 was a good fight

I do kind of like the plot armor, but I think it should be limited to the rerolls, something about the capacity to reroll ANYTHING seems a little op, especially when I get two per turn minimum at no extra point cost (and characters like Brother corbulo grant only a single reroll for the entire game at almost double the cost of a regular model)

I love the idea of concussive, backstab, and sabotage being added, but I don't know what any of those do...did we update to 6th while I've been out of the loop?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480590/4843568.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480590/4843568.page GMT
Concussive is the rule the thunder hammer gets. IIRC models hit (or maybe wounded?) drop their initiative to 1 for the next turn. I was thinking that team wise the legend could hit someone with the shield and another hero would then engage them in hand to hand. Backstab, and sabotage aren’t GWS rules, I was kinda putting it on you to figure out how to represent those abilities as the assassin seems a bit of an underdog IMHO.

Another thing you could do with the assassin character is give her the ability to pick up a weapon from a dead attacker. So if she kills a guy with a flamer she now has a flamer, or if she moves over the spot where a guy with a power sword was killed she can pick the sword up. Make it so she can only hold onto one weapon at a time so she is not carting around three heavy weapons and a thunder hammer - this is just another thing out of the movie that might add to the narrative and give the character a boost. I am really just spitballing ideas that might benefit the scenario - your mission is fine without any alterations.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480590/4843961.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480590/4843961.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480590/4844479.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480590/4844479.page GMT
The Legend; perfect bar the lack of rending-the man likes busting through armoured bulkheads etc

The Hawk; there is no way in hell he is as s*** at fighting as the average imperial squaddie-he's an assassin so at least ws-5 & i-5

The Assassin; again: she's an assassin correction THE assassin; ws-8, bs-5, i-7

The God; arguably the strongest, but at lest str/t; 6 & Eternal Warrior

Finally:

Liaison Officer-Son of C;
ws;4, bs;4, str;3, t;3, w;1, i;4, a;2, ld;8, sv;5+,

Meltagun

Fearless

Heroic Sacrifice; If placed next to any character that loses a wound he will take automatically take the hit.

Is He Dead?; If killed, the model is left on the table but is otherwise ignored by both sides and does not disrupt LoS, on a role of 5+ he returns and may act normally but may take no action that turn.




]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480590/4845349.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480590/4845349.page GMT inq:

Son of Cole is dead by this point, s'why he's not here =/

As far as the stats of the hawk and the assassin I was trying to follow Joss whedon's laws of the avengers:

Strength wise it goes:

Hulk->Thor->Ironman->Cap->Hawkeye->Widow->Tony

And as far as their weapon skills his rules were:

Thor-Widow-Cap-Hulk-hawkeye-Ironman/tony

As far as their proficiency...hulk is better than hawkeye because of his speed and size, widow is better than cap (so you're right I should probably adjust that)

so my thinking was that I wanted to make the hawk and the assassin as baseline human as I could (This is magic and monsters and nothing we were ever trained for etc) also because I didn't want to make the avengers too expensive...and I was running off their comparative stats to BA and GK for all the avengers.

That said you do bring up a good point, thor did survive 30000 feet straight down in a steel trap...he probably merits eternal warrior

Grunt:

I like your ideas for the assassin and the legend. I think giving his ranged and melee attacks concussive might even the playing field a bit (I was always a big fan of when cap took down the hulk in ultimates vol1)

To those who added suggestions, I think I shall revise some of the squads, lemmi know what you think

The Legend:
WS6 BS5 S4 T4 W3 I5 A4 LD10 Sv4+

Rules:
Feel no Pain
Inspiring: has "and they shall know no fear" and conveys "and they shall know no fear" to any units within 12"
Fleet
Living Legend: rites of battle but only for units with LoS

Weapon:
Shield: 2 handed melee weapon, conveys 4++ sv and can be used as a ranged weapon with profile S4 AP6 Rg12" pinning Assault 1, note that any model hit by the shield in melee or range strikes at I1 on its next turn.

The Beast
WS4 BS2 S8 T5 W3 I5 A6 LD10 Sv3+ 5++

Rules
Deus ex Hulkina: The beast may always run 6" towards the nearest enemy character, vehicle, or HQ. This does not apply to characters or HQs implanted in squads
Monstrous Creature
Rampaging engine of destruction: Should the Beast have just successfully destroyed a unit in CC (hero, squad, vehicle or otherwise) he may choose to fire a single ranged attack at the following profile: S8 AP5 Rg 36" Pinning, Assault 1
Feel no Pain
Jump Pack (he jumps. far.)

The Hawk
WS5 BS10 S3 T3 W2 I3 A2 LD10 Sv5+

Rules:
Eye in the sky: any unit that the hawk has LoS to can be treated as being in LoS for the purposes of barrage and blast weapons
Agile: The hawk has a 5++ save in CC
Stealth
IC
Pilot: The hawk may elect to pilot any models with "skimmer" or "flyer" type. Should he do so, the vehicle gains his BS and the "fast" type in addition to its other types. should the vehicle wreck, immoblize, or explode, he is treated as a passenger, and suffers all the normal effects a passenger would in such a vehicle. (oh momma, a fast hammerhead with BS10?!)

Weapon:
The Bow: fires with any of the following profiles:
S4 Ap4 rg 24" Assault3
S6 Ap4 rg 48" Heavy 1
S3 AP- rg 24" Assault 1 Small blast
S3 AP- rg 12" Heavy 1 Large blast

The Assassin
WS7 BS4 S3 T3 W2 I4 A4 LD10 Sv5+

Rules:
IC
Stealth
Master fighter: The assassin has a 5++ save in CC
Hand to Hand Tazing: If a model suffers a wound against the Assassin in CC and survives, it strikes at I1 next round
Backstab: should the assassin engage a squad that is already in CC, all her attacks auto hit. roll for damage normally
Combat pragmatist: Should the assassin kill a model in CC, she may elect to strike with all future attacks using the melee weapon of that model. The assassin may use only one melee weapon at a time, should she obtain another, the previous one is discarded. Also, any squad she joins may fire a special or heavy weapon at her BS (as she uses the weapon herself)
Sabotage: The Assassin is treated as having Melta bombs and adds +1 to her vehicle damage rolls
Weapons:
TL Pistols: S3 AP- Rg12" Assault 2

Gave the hulk the ability to chuck gak after he blows it up, gave an interpretation of backstab and sabotage to the assassin, and tweaked the hawk's skills and rules a bit. Also added concussive to the legend's power. Also added IC to the assassin and the hawk so they can join squads if they so choose.
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"The Defender gains 5 additional HQ slots which may be used to field the following;"

[characters].

Also, their unit types should be

Infantry, Character, Unique

Except the Beast, which should be

Monstrous Creature, Character, Unique.

Then you can give the Beast S6 and make him affordable while still allowing him to Smash. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480590/4885482.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480590/4885482.page GMT hqs or elites, because the only support the avengers have is armor, fast attack, and infantry.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480590/4943218.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/480590/4943218.page GMT